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In the latest episode of our podcast about the Texas Legislature, Texas Tribune CEO Evan Smith talks to Elena Marks, the president and CEO of the Episcopal Health Foundation, about long-shot efforts to expand Medicaid in the 2021 legislative session — and failing that, what the state can do at a time when our uninsured population is growing.

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