Petitioners Renew Talk of Texas Secession
Update, 4:40pm: Gov. Rick Perry's office, in response to an online petition asking the White House to approve the secession of Texas from the U.S., has said that "Gov. Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it."
"But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government," added spokeswoman Catherine Frazier. "Now more than ever our country needs strong leadership from states like Texas, that are making tough decisions to live within their means, keep taxes low and provide opportunities to job creators so their citizens ...
Comments (61)
David Huang via Texas Tribune on Facebook
lol ok.
Jeffery M. Cook via Texas Tribune on Facebook
BOOOOO you dumb asses?
Adam Silva via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Good luck with that.
Ben Schwab via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Im glad people are starting to take this seriously. Ron Paul 2016!
Jim Hsu via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Bring it on. There will be many climbing the fence to get from Republic of Texas into the New US of A.
Terri Gregory via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Let the petitioners find their own country, THEY CAN'T HAVE TEXAS!
CherylCato
Please, give me strength to get through this malarkey.
Valerie Purcell via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Good Luck making it without the Fed's help. (Just like GOP wanting to end FEMA til their states need it!)
Dianne Johnson-Thompson via Texas Tribune on Facebook
We maintain a balanced budget+???? Really!!!! How amazing is that?? What is the info founded on? Time for an open records request!
Herb Levy via Texas Tribune on Facebook
how many of the non-Texans signing the petition are people who want to rid the US of Texas?
Julia Gregory
Oh, good grief!
Justin Williams via Texas Tribune on Facebook
If these fools are succuesful, then I will NOT move. I will NOT honor their laws. I will NOT pay their taxes for their stupidity. They might as well take me to jail!!!!
Dawn Reinhard via Texas Tribune on Facebook
It'll never happen....
Jose B. Gonzalez via Texas Tribune on Facebook
They need to get back on their medications. It will NEVER happen...
Felipe Gutierrez via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Not even worth writing about.
John Carlisle Moore via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Even Sam Houston didnt want to secede.
David Lee Koontz via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Justin... sounds good to me. I'll bring your cuffs.
Toni McNulty via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Every time I hear talk about Texas secession, I think about the book "The Power Exchange" by Alan R. Erwin. It was published in 1979 and is out of print, but copies are available at amazon.com.
Steve Levine via Texas Tribune on Facebook
It may be time for me to renew my Yankee citizenship
Andrew Goldberg via Texas Tribune on Facebook
hand us to the cartels why don't they
Bibi Lobo Somyak via Texas Tribune on Facebook
So once Texas secedes, and the oil companies don't have the sweet deal with the federal government and the thousands of people employed by the federal government (courts, NASA, DHS, Housing, law enforcement, ICE, etc.) are without jobs, how will the government that only meets for a few months every other year deal with all of this?
Colin Strother via Texas Tribune on Facebook
In other news, crazy people be crazy.
Dominic Giarratani via Texas Tribune on Facebook
I'm not surprised that this idea has come home to America since we've pushed it in other countries every place we have had a chance (Bosnia, Chechnya, the former soviet republics, taiwan, Palestinian homeland in Isreal). That said, I expect what's good for the geese won't be good for the gander.
Mike Vroman via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Secession or not, forcing the federal government to officially respond will be of value in itself, and may help force the conversation away from mere talking points to something more real.
STOPTHE MAGNET
I fully support a "petition" form of governance at this time. Americans are not represented.
Mary Muna via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Oh right, so the Mexicans can take over, call it Tejas and make slaves of everyone else...enjoy your damned tacos and litter because Don't mess with Texas is losing credability.
Vicki Hill Riedel via Texas Tribune on Facebook
A few individuals doing something stupid on the Internet is NOT news. It happens every day. There is nothing official about this and it isn't going to happen. I'm sure there is real news out there that needs reporting.
Neil Moyer via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Let'em walk outta USA on their own...their choice...America, love it, or leave it!
Scott Nicol via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Totally idotic. Texas receives more in federal benefits than we pay in federal taxes.
David Huang via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Dominic, are you seriously suggesting that what happened in Bosnia, Chechnya, the former Soviet Republicans, Taiwan, and Israel is somehow relevent to what is going on here?
Ann Pittman-Thompson via Texas Tribune on Facebook
You've got to be kidding! 20,000+ signatures representing how many million?? Why don't the idiot teapartiers and right wing nut jobs crawl back in their caves. As a reasonable, white, female, senior citizen, I find this astonishing. And as everyone knows, being a female and senior citizen is not the most popular class of people in Texas
David Maserang via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Yeah, we tried leaving before. Didn't work out too well . . . .
Judy Burns via Texas Tribune on Facebook
So I guess Ft Hood would have to go to the US-hmmmm-doesn't seem helpful to our "balanced" Texas economy.
Dominic Giarratani via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Well D. Huang, I am not suggesting anything, as I explcitly spelled out that the US has one set of policies that is good for everyone else in the world re: seccession and another set for its own citizens. If that was unclear in my last post, I hope confusion has been removed. For the record, I don't know if it's a good or bad idea for Texas or any other state, but I don't think that just because an idea is unpopular doesn't mean it's not worth discussing.
Pickles Sorrell
These people are mentally ill. Can we put lithium in their Diet pepsi?
Gayle Jackman Schmidt via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Oh my. Really? And exactly how is that going to help? Does NCAA and SEC have an international conference? Didn't think so.
Sparkling Sunshine via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Gayle!!!! That's great!
Maricela Gonzalez Rios via Texas Tribune on Facebook
So, I say Texas sign a petition, demanding Perry's physiological evaluation & resignation, as Texas Governor!
Jeremy Spartacus Ritchey via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Texas really does have some uneducated retards.. and to think they are also running our state. LOL.
Nico Suave via Texas Tribune on Facebook
N.C.A.A. is looking to bring Canada and Mexico in, so I think they can accomodate the SEC somehow. Call it transborder relations. ha ha
Kaylette Jett via Texas Tribune on Facebook
aw hell THAT's the day I'm leaving Texas is the day that happens
Texas RMS
First of all, states ( including Texas) do not even have the legal right to secession. So this is a complete waste of our taxpayer money. Secondly, take away all federal support and this state would go belly up. Just take a long look at every benefit we derive from being part of this wonderful country and then try to figure out how we could possibly duplicate it. Thirdly, you might want to spend a little time on that Pledge of Allegiance you've been reciting your whole life. One nation, under God, indivisible. Come on, people!
Samdavis
Welcome to the all-white nation of Teabaggerstan.
Emmanuel Goldstein
If one has a real intention to seceed you don’t petition for it, you declare it… As in the Declaration of Independence.
Read more about our “petitioning King George for our independence” politics at: http://www.xxxpyramid.com
j. davis
Micah H. is apparently too dumb to have used a spell check program to check and correct the language in his petition before he submitted it.
Cliff Avery via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Sure we can secede. But before we go we should pay our pro rata share of the national debt. But wait; We can barely afford to pay teachers.
nick pell
I wish this would happen. Be the perfect excuse to leave this shithole.
Mary S Martinez via Texas Tribune on Facebook
What is WRONG with these Texans? Things are ****, so let's make it worse? And ARLINGTON!?!?! Rick Perry already made Texas look like fools. Why can't some SANE people make the news AND be from Texas???
Ken Pierce
Patriotic not. The first president since Lincoln to win* without the South (13 Confederate states) was Obama in 2008. Now he's done it again in 2012. These are the same folks who want representation without taxation.
*didn't need VA or NC to have 270 electoral votes, and declared the winner before FL finished counting.
Fred Talmadge
Perry can't run for President if he is not a US citizen.
JC DemocratofTejas
Are you shitting me? Say, what about letting Texans voice what they want, and screw the gov, et al.
gypsy314 ne
lets make it happen
Rudy Gonzales
If you laid sour grapes end-to-end around the world, it would still be sour grapes. Just because TEA-Republican's got severely thumped on Taxes as 60% would accept taxes to go up on the top-tiered 2%. TEA-Republican's got severely thumped on forcing women to undergo medical examination at their expense by 59%. TEA-Republican's got severely thumped by 65% on immigration and a pathway for undocumented workers and their families.
I can't believe anything Rick Perry says or does since his "deer in the headlights" traipse across the nation representing Texas and Oopsville. Perry is a sad representation of Texas and he should be frustrated, as the TEA-Republican's cratered and received a severe thumping by Obama on November 6th.
This man is just like Romney saying everything he can to appease and garner votes. He and the TEA-Republican leadership of the Texas Legislature have taken a stand on the wrong side of school funding, Clean air and environmental regulation along with going backwards to "laissez faire" leadership allowing business to run rampant. Rather than seek conversation and compromise, he and others create diversionary rhetoric of secession to salve their wounds. With all of Rick Perry's gaffs and failures, he still wants to seek re-election. Surely Texans can do better.
Texas needs "term limits" and "Initiative and Referendum" with flakes like Perry, Dewhurst and newly elected Cruz.
objective jack
Thank God for Thomas Jefferson who wrote:
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. (if you don't know what this is, be embarrassed, then go google it)
Some of you who think this succession talk is silly, better pay attention to the amount of civil unrest in this country and start holding our elected officials accountable or we are going to be in trouble. Anyone who voted for Obama voted for a man who has lost his faith in capitalism and the free market. They voted for a man who ran against Bush using his 5 trillion dollar deficit against him - then turned around and raised the deficit more in half the time. We need a balance of Free Market and adequate Rule of Law or our economy is going to collapse. Obama funds his programs out of the pockets of American Texans. We don’t have any more to give. We need to wake up as a nation before our pathetic national leadership inspires another Thomas Jefferson. If you want to know how something like this can happen, read "Defiance" by Tom Ryker - a current top seller. This best selling conspiracy/thriller is so down to earth and close to the truth it will scare you, and you’ll be waiting for it to raise its ugly head on the evening news. See tomryker.com
Jerry Ballew
I hear there's now a petition being signed by United States Patriotic Citizens to ban all Seditious antiAmericans from these shores. Keep on signing. 60,000 and growing. Gonna need a bigger boat. There's a boat leaving soon to Dubai. As the old song goes, "Pack up all your tales and woes, here we go, Bye Bye Blackbird."
Jerry Ballew
It's like Mark Twain wrote, "Hain't we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain't that a big enough majority in any town?"
Steven de la Hoya via Texas Tribune on Facebook
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Nita Drummond
I don't like how things are going either I don't like the idea of Obama being RE-Elected either, but our countries financial problems are also on the "Bull- Headed House of Rep's, Congress and the Senate. I don't think people are looking at the Veteran's, Retired or Disabled, the benefits they receive for their part in keeping this country "PROTECTED". Also what about the benefits like Social Security for the disabled and the elderly. What happens to that if Texas leaves the "Union"? Is TEXAS going to make sure they keep the same amount of benefits they are receiving now or what ? People that are trying to petition for TEXAS to leave the Union need to think about them, because they make up at least half if not more of TEXAS. What are you going to do, cut their funds off? People need to think about these things and decide what they are going to do, because if it's a choice between Texas and losing their benefits they will leave TEXAS and stay where they are part of the USA to keep their benefits. We as a country need to make the House, Congress, Senate and Obama to pull their heads out of their BACK SIDES and fix what needs to be fix and quit playing with America. It was the House, Congress, and Senate that caused "S&P to drop our rating".... I remember as I was growing up everybody always said "UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL"
Rudy Gonzales
Rick Perry showing some sense: "Gov. Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it." Sadly, so many other Texans showing their bigotry and childishness. Bobby Jindal is sounding more and more like the smartest of the losers. It's time for the public to get involved by contacting your Senators and Representatives urging them fall in line behind the winner.
Thomas Asciutto
Secession? So much for the PLEDGE these citizens took everyday throughout school which includes the word INDIVISIBLE. They are no better than the "good citizens" desecrating our flag. Take a look at a Sayreville, NJ business who have chosen
to desecrate the American flag to make a political statement about the Obama re-election.
Any assumptions about Viking Terminal sending a distress signal resulting from Hurricane Sandy and the resulting flooding however are incorrect.
1- A black wreath displayed on the upside down flag: clear indication that the owners feel our country is dead as a result of the election.
2- A fast check on the owners into their Facebook accounts and other sources shows a pattern of right wing activity.
3- Repeated requests for comment from the business on the flag display have been ignored.
I have no problem with any of their political affiliations or activities. I do object however to their disrespectful use of our flag to make a statement.
There is a grassroots Facebook website set up to rally members in the hopes of boycotting this business until they remove their distasteful display. Please LIKE and SHARE:
Search "Boycott Flag Desecraters" on Facebook or cut and paste:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Flag-Desecraters/544316545582989
If those pictures don't make you sick, check your pulse.
gypsy314 ne
We do not need Obama okay to leave. We should hang around to join in on the civil war. The chaos to come is not going to be pretty but some will have to die so may will live. Once the socialist are removed from America and sent back to Europe then and only then will America have a chance.