Immigration Proposal Not Seen as Major Step
Comprehensive immigration reform it is not: That's what many are saying about the Obama administration's recently announced plan to ease restrictions on illegal immigrants trying to re-enter the U.S. after applying for legal status.
Current law mandates that illegal immigrants applying for legal status must return to their home country to do so. Once there, they are barred from re-entering the United States for either three or 10 years, depending on the length of their unauthorized stay.
But immigrants can apply for a waiver that allows them re-entry during the process if they can prove that their ...
Comments (40)
Joel Wischkaemper
Current law mandates that illegal immigrants applying for legal status must return to their home country to do so. Once there, they are barred from re-entering the United States for either three or 10 years, depending on the length of their unauthorized stay.
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Illegal aliens are well aware of what the conditions are when they come to this country and stay without permission. Ah yes... so are the Immigration Lawyers, and so are the advocates of the illegal aliens. There is an enormous amount of money backing the illegal aliens. They are going to sue, and sue, and sue, until the people of the United States do as they are told. A way to stop this is for such as Obama to step forward and tell the world he will fight it. I don’t think he is very big on law enforcement, and I don’t think he will, but that would be..... the right thing to do.
Links that discuss this issue from another perspective including the enormous cost of allowing the lack of leadership in this area to continue.
http://www.illegalaliens.us/
http://www.fairus.org
http://www.cis.org
http://www.numbersusa.com
http://www.heritage.org/issues/immigration
And this is a form of amnesty. This is one I particularly like.
Amnesty Costs 70 Times More Than Enforcement
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/amnesty-costs-10-times-more-than-enforcement.html
Steven Kite
It's not, perhaps, a major piece of legislation... but in philosophical terms it DOES represent a major shift in attitude. There are no electric fences, no barbed wire, no nutcases with machine guns waiting to wipe out anyone who even LOOKS like s/he might have once met a person from another country (or might have ancestry indigenous to the Americas...)
In that sense it IS a major change. Anything that treats non-pink people as humans, with rights and identity, is a major step upward from the "conservative" xenophobic jingo that's dominated the conversation since Uncle Ronnie made it right and proper for Real Amurrikans to hate THOSE people again.
Joel Wischkaemper
It is really sad that the bigotry and attemps at racism interfere with the issue of the illegal aliens. Pick looking people, indiginous Americans ... and so forth.
Most Americans are of the same composite DNA as the Mexican Nationals.
The 'indiginous Americans' are of the same composite DNA as the pink people and the Mexican Nationals.
You do have to have some sort of education to know that, but when we are commenting on this issue, shuck the jive and stick to the issue. Leave off the Machine Guns.. all the garbage.
Illegal aliens are... very expensive. The primary reason the illegal aliens have been legeslated against in the States has been... the cost. The invasion happened, and while the Federal Government has been protecting the illegal aliens for some time now, the fact is, the 11 million illegal aliens estimate is very low. It could be as high as 30 million. In any case, the cost of those illegal aliens in terms of Hospitals Education and Crime has been... high. New York, with a LOT of illegal aliens, has a dozen hotels that would fail if they did not have illegal aliens, but their wages are not high enough to pay for insurance and so... they hit the emergency room. Two of the hotels in New York are very close to closing, but the Democartic Senator Schumer is doing very well at getting subsidies to keep the hospitals open so the hotels will have the workers. Yep.. we pay for those New York Hotels.. and it is not wonderful.
The issue is cost. I recommend sticking to the issue. The links I brought deal with that very well.
Joel Wischkaemper
It is really sad that the bigotry and attemps at racism interfere with the issue of the illegal aliens. Pick looking people, indiginous Americans ... and so forth.
Most Americans are of the same composite DNA as the Mexican Nationals.
The 'indiginous Americans' are of the same composite DNA as the pink people and the Mexican Nationals.
You do have to have some sort of education to know that, but when we are commenting on this issue, shuck the jive and stick to the issue. Leave off the Machine Guns.. all the garbage.
Illegal aliens are... very expensive. The primary reason the illegal aliens have been legeslated against in the States has been... the cost. The invasion happened, and while the Federal Government has been protecting the illegal aliens for some time now, the fact is, the 11 million illegal aliens estimate is very low. It could be as high as 30 million. In any case, the cost of those illegal aliens in terms of Hospitals Education and Crime has been... high. New York, with a LOT of illegal aliens, has a dozen hotels that would fail if they did not have illegal aliens, but their wages are not high enough to pay for insurance and so... they hit the emergency room. Two of the major hospitals in New York are very close to closing, but the Democartic Senator Schumer is doing very well at getting subsidies to keep the hospitals open so the hotels will have the workers. Yep.. we pay for those New York Hotels.. and it is not wonderful.
The issue is cost. I recommend sticking to the issue. The links I brought deal with that very well.
Beverly Nuckols
Steven Kite - Where have you heard, read of, or seen any thing like "nutcases with machine guns waiting to wipe out anyone who even LOOKS like s/he might have once met a person from another country (or might have ancestry indigenous to the Americas...)"?
Jose B. Gonzalez via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Immigration reform is a must. This is a step in the right direction.
What bothers me the most about immigration reform is that just a few years ago many Republicans were on the band wagon for immigration reform - they loved that the Hispanic vote was beginning to steer in their direction, but then the Tea Party was born and all of a sudden the SAME GOP politicians who were riding the immigration reform band wagon - DISAPPEARED - SILENCED... They did a complete 360 when they saw that it was no longer to their benefit to support immigration reform. Talk about a flip flop.
Mara Alexander via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Opposition to illegal immigration and amnesty is BIPARTISAN. Plenty of us lifelong Democrats oppose amnesty. Illegal aliens are scabs, driving down wages, taking jobs from Americans, and making it harder to negotiate with employers for better working conditions.
gypsy314 ne
So you liberal democrats agree with your leader Obama he is desperate to cheat and count all the illegal aliens votes so he can hold on to his office. American people can see through his illegal actions and he will pay with his office.
Anyone but Obama!
Remember a voter for a democrat is a vote for Obama and illegal aliens ,homosexuals and terrorist.
voteforamerica
January 12th, 2012
Amnesty-Immigration Reform, is about political power.
Fellow Texans-Americans, The Washington establishment wants amnesty-Immigration reform for the illegal aliens, Democrats and Republicans are the same, they are all corrupt and traitors' their only interest is political power, and on the process they betray us. We all know, what illegal immigration is done to our country; it is insane for any one in the right mind, to think of given amnesty to illegal aliens. Reagan in 1986 give amnesty to 3.5 millions illegal aliens and promised the American people that" The immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986" will fix the country's illegal immigration problem, in 1986, Reagan promised Border Security and enforcement of the immigration laws, he said, that will strengthened the law through sanctions against employers who hired illegal immigrants, because jobs were the attraction for illegal immigrants and cutting this option was crucial.
The truth is that this corrupt government deceive us, they never attempted to enforce our immigration laws; they created this invasion of illegal aliens an immigration crisis that they claim is impossible to enforce. and they are working to sell us again the same solution that fail to work before and created the situation worse. Today we are living this nightmare created by President Ronald Reagan's solutions to fix this country's illegal immigration problem of the 1980's and we are not buying it. We want real solutions, we know the problem because we are Americans of Mexican heritage, we actually lived through and knew then that it would not work, as we can see it today and definitely will not work now. In Texas illegal aliens take over one million jobs from us Native-Born and American citizens and cost the Texans taxpayers billions of Dollar in education, Medical, incarceration and social service. They are a threat to our security as drug cartel members are moving to Texas and buying property because this corrupt government made easy for them to move to Texas to do their dirty business.
Texans, we must not compromise, we have immigration laws and what we need is to enforce our laws, do not let the politicians play on your sentiments. I love people, Mexicans are my family, I have family in Mexico and South America, but I Am an American and I will Not betray my country, I will not be part of the destruction of this beautiful country that give me the opportunity to enjoy freedom and become the best I can be.
Fellow Texan, if you call yourself an American, it is your duty to demand from this corrupt government to enforce our immigration laws. You decide freedom or economic slavery, because this issue is about greed for power and money, it has nothing to do with love, humanity or social justice. If the politician are concern about social justice, they should work with Mexico to finish the exploitation of Mexicans human capital and to stop the destruction of the agriculture of Mexico by the cheap corn and other products to Mexico; This United States destroy millions of Mexicans jobs that is why millions of Mexicans come to our country illegally. This is the truth but not one dare to tell the truth, not La Raza, The Border Network for Human Rights, LULAC or the rest of the Mexicans organizations that claims to be concern about Latinos or Mexicans, they are a joke, because they know that this will not be done, they are using the Latinos for political power only.
Juan Reynoso's Blog - TeaParty.org
Hannah Katz
Mara, you sound like Cesar Chavez. And the logic he used still works.
Dale Curry
The problem of undocumented aliens will continue until there is COMPREHENSIVE reform! Comprehensive reform will not happen until both sides sit down together and make it happen. Based upon the GOP/Tparty rhetoric, it is clear they have not intention of working with this President, even if it would address a staggering problem our nation has faced for decades. This is a small but significant step in the right direction.
Joel Wischkaemper
The problem of undocumented aliens will continue until there is COMPREHENSIVE reform! Comprehensive reform will not happen until both sides sit down together and make it happen. Based upon the GOP/Tparty rhetoric, it is clear they have not intention of working with this President, even if it would address a staggering problem our nation has faced for decades. This is a small but significant step in the right direction.
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Obama came up with a plan that was something close to silly. Even the Democratic Party didn't accept it or it would have passed. Further, Obama is not sitting on a throne in a far away place.. he is the President and enforces the law. He is not enforcing the law and truelly, he has made the problem a whole lot worse.
In your wildest dreams by the way, there won't be amnesty.
Amnesty Costs 70 Times More Than Enforcement
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/amnesty-costs-10-times-more-than-enforcement.html
We need a President that respects his oath of office and enforces the law. Just such a man is just over the horizen. When E Verify and the Real I.D. Law is in place, the illegal aliens will be self deporting very quickly.
voteforamerica
January 5th, 2012
Fellow Americans, we have become a nation of sheep, that follow liars and traitors, because we are to lazy to investigate and search for the truth; to question our leaders, the politicians that we send to Washington to represent us. We have allowed these politicians to become a self serving government that systematic legalized larceny and looted our country right under our noses.
Fellow Americans, corruption is rampant in our country; from Washington to the States Capitals, counties and cities the corrupt lawyers undermined our Constitution and the rule of law to pass legislations to benefit their cronies, the multinational corporations, Bankers and Wall Street. We know that Wall Street Bankers, with the help of our U.S Government, have been helping themselves to trillions of Dollars of taxpayers funds, and Bankrupt our country. This economic demise will continue because we are blind and lost in the darkness of corruption. The candidates of today wash their hands of any responsibility for what happened from Reagan to Obama, and promise the people, solutions that are more of the same, they are professional politicians that their only interest is self benefit, they do not have any concept of right or wrong, integrity or loyalty, they are pathological liars, enemy of the people of this United States, traitors and our biggest threat to our freedom and our Constitutional rights.
Fellow Tea Party Americans, thanks to the Tea Party, the American youth and Ron Paul, we can see that many courageous individuals are awakening to a reality, that our only choice to take our country back, is going to be by electing statesman, true Americans that will place our Constitution, our sovereignty, the rule of law and the economic and welfare of Americans first. Our loyalty is to our country the USA, not to any political party or organization, we are Americans and our duty is to stand for America.
The Tea Party must unite Americans, by our principles that, “all men are created equal”, an American that is color and ethnic blind, in witch every one is judged by their character, honesty and integrity; a courageous American that will hold their Government accountable for their actions and prosecute them if need be, for any misuses of power or his office. Obama is an example of a president, that the people of this United States must never tolerate, he is pathological liar and a traitor, he is a direct responsible for this economic crisis, the demise of our constitution and the rule of law, he is in fact a dictator, that congress allowed to remain in office. Our duty is to remove this traitor and the many law makers that contribute to made Washington a cesspool of corrupt politicians; it is up to us to change this corrupt system of Government, we must place our country first, nothing matters but our Constitution, our sovereignty and the rule of law, we must never allow any politician to trash our Constitution or the rule of law.
Tea Party due your duty throw all them out, cleanup our White house and our congress.
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Janet Thomas
All this administration is doing is chipping away at our current laws a little at a time. They don't need to take a "major step" at this rate for us to have another full blown amnesty. The 115,000 that he gave temporary status to last year that came into the US to flee border violence in Juarez - chip. Protected status he gave to abused women coming from Honduras and El Salvador - chip. Now granting these waivers, chip, chip, chip
gypsy314 ne
Good Point Janet illegal aliens draining our welfare and jobs do not matter to liberals. I wonder why it does not matter to liberals only reason I come up with they must be using the illegal aliens for what ever reason.
Anyone but Obama!
Remember a vote for a democrat is a vote for Obama and illegal aliens, homosexuals and terrorist.
Dale Curry
Despite the rhetoric on both sides of this problem, every American wants secure borders. To blame this President for the problem is an example of the rights disinformation. I would ask any reader with an open mind to look at the following facts when deciding about this administration's response to this issue, as well as, what needs to be done to address this problem:
1. Fact: deportations under this administration's 2.5 years are on pace to be more than Bush did in
his 8 years
2. Fact: This administration has called for Comprehensive Immigration reform since arriving in the oval
office and Congress has yet to act (for proof - google :"Obama calls for Comprehensive Immigration
Reform". You will find article going back to before he was President.
3. Fact: The number of illegal immigrants in this country is lower than it has been in decades mainly
due to the recession
I believe Comprehensive immigration reform would include the following components:
1. Enhance our nation’s security and safety with a sensible enforcement policy
2. Protect fundamental rights for all
3. A rational and humane approach to the undocumented population. Simply, the process should include
a path to legal permanent resident status for those already living in the nation and not convicted
of a serious crime
4. Ensure appropriate ways for workers to come in legally in the future with full worker rights and labor
protections - by ensuring the rights of workers will reduce or eliminate many of the reasons
the undocumented are hired in the first place
5. Allocate sufficient visas to close unlawful migration channels - Currently our immigration levels are
arbitrarily set by Congress without regard to real labor market needs-this system has lead to the millions
here illegally
6. Promote immigrant integration - before receiving Permanent Resident and Citizenship immigrants
should be required to demonstrate a reasonable knowledge of our laws and language
Or we could just keep blaming the President and his administration for a problem that predates Ronald Reagan.
gypsy314 ne
Dale I can understand your loyalty to the dictator Obama but you are dead wrong on supporting the law breakers that come here to use our welfare system and take jobs that Americans need. The Family's that have been victims to the illegal liens the take there ID and kill out law officers and children. Dale I say to you and Obama tell it to the family's that suffer from all the damages the law breakers illegal aliens have caused. It is clear to see what side of the law you are on. Do not worry Dale help is on the way and you and Obama will have to find another way to destroy America. Have a bless day.
Anyone but Obama!
Remember a vote for a democrat is a vote for Obama and illegal aliens , homosexuals and terrorist.
Joel Wischkaemper
There are people out there that suggest the problem of illegal aliens pre-dates Obama. And it does. But if you refer to the links I have provided you discover the issue began with the 1987 amnesty. Loads of illegal aliens came north from Mexico and were very specifically waiting for the .....next.... amnesty. And they came in rather large numbers.
The problem began here: the funds for the enforcement were cut and essentially, the border was open. It continued to be that way at the end of the Clinton Administration, through the Bush Administration, and on into the Obama administration. Clintons request for more Border Patrolmen was refused by Congress, and then in the Bush Administration, the name calling began, and began right at the very top. Anyone who wanted the law enforced was called a racist, xenophobi and ever so much more. Check the crime rate of the Hispanics in the Barrio towns, and it is sky high from 1994 on. That one is a DOJ file that is very hard to find. They move it on us frequently sos we cannot do any racism.
The end of this story is really simple. Bush, and then Obama, did not fund the Border Patrol. Apparently, Congress has alloted enough money to deport 440,000 illegal aliens and then the funds dry up. The start of this story is... Congress and Mr. Bush, and Mr. Obama did not want to enforce the law. Cheap labor really helped productivity. AND.. that effort to assimilate the illegal aliens without deporting them continues, and if it can be slipped through Congress, the supporters of the illegal aliens do not care one whit about the American People, they will do it.
Dale Curry
@ Gypsy 314 - Several of your points, about what I believe and this President, are patently false. To wit:
1. This President is not a Dictator. Such rhetoric is inflamatory and does little to address the problem.
Furthermore, we might want to consider talking to each other as human beings. You and I have said
some very mean things to one another (of course, I was right - jokingly said) that has done little to
raise the debate.
2. This President is not a Traitor. Again, highly inflamatory.
3. For the record, I do support this President, however, I would consider myself more of a Clinton
democrat
4. Nor do I "support" undocumented workers/immigrants. I do try to treat people humanely and in the
manner that honors my faith
5. For you to claim that the President as well as myself seek to destroy this nation demonstrates the
level of hate filled speech your willing to go to in order to vent your vile and hate filled heart. You
and your ilk drove our nation off an economic cliff by not protecting our borders, leading us into two
wars that never ended under your sides leadership; despite being at war your side lead us into
massive tax cuts for the wealthy and paid for all of it by borrowing the $ from the Chinese; failed to
adequately regulate a pack of crooks with an army of well paid lobbyist. Then when the American
public turns your side out, you spend the next 3.5 years blaming the man trying to clean up your mess.
Before this President took office, Limbaugh gave the call to arms for the GOP when he said: “I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, ‘Well, I hope he succeeds.’” Since then, as the GOP has yet to work constructively with this administration. They have said NO to every policy this administration has proposed, even when it hurt our nation (e.g. debt
ceiling debate).
So, please keep spewing your hate filled rhetoric. Every time you post your lies that this President support terrorist and illegal immigrants you frame the debate in such a way that every good person of conscience knows who is lying and who is telling the truth. Every time you post vent your bile here, you frame the debate so that more and more independents reach clarity. Support the administration that is addressing
the problems, or sink into partisan lies and misinformation.
Joel Wischkaemper
The executive orders that Mr. Obama is using to drive the immigration programs he likes are not constitutional.
Tucano Fulano
I'd consider keeping some, maybe all, of the 30+million illegal aliens in the USA provided Mr Obama and 100% of his extended family, especially Michelle, leave the USA in permanent exile by month's end.
gypsy314 ne
Dale I guess it depends on what side you are from. To each there own. Thanks for your kind words and have a bless day.
Anyone but Obama!
Remember a vote for a democrat is a vote for Obama and illegal aliens , homosexuals and terrorist.
gypsy314 ne
Joel are 100% right.
Anyone but Obama!
Remember a vote for a democrat is a vote for Obama and illegal aliens , homosexuals and terrorist.
gypsy314 ne
For you Liberals what else do you need more proof about your democrat leaders Obama will turn USA in to a third would nation if he and his buddies have there way. Man Obama must really need the votes to go this far.
Anyone but Obama!
Remember a voter for a democrat is a vote for Obama and illegal aliens ,homosexuals and terrorist.
Lib Grimmett
There needs to be full enforcement of our immigration laws and a moratorium on legal immigration given the seriousness of our unemployment. I'd like to know when these representatives (and I use that term loosely) going to take care of American citizens first! We have 14+ million people out of work - let's get them to work first and then we'll see about others.
Lib Grimmett for TX HD 115 - check out my website www.libgrimmett.com
David Spratt
This is just another way to chip away at the basis of the law. the recent memos of Homeland Security and ICE regarding prosecutorial discretion are the same. Getting people used to the idea there is nothing they can do to prevent the inevitable , letting all Illegal Aliens here now stay , is the plan. Everyone knows they will work for less than a living wage , even their advocates know this. So where do they make up the difference? The Illegal advocates claim they do not receive welfare or any type of assistance from the public. Common sense tells anyone with it , this cannot be true. The 99%'s acknowledge wages are not what they should be , but you will not hear them denounce Illegal Aliens for depressing them , especially in construction. Legalizing these people will not change their mentality or their cultural beliefs that drive them. Most would agree that China produces products cheaply using labor and working conditions that make Americans uncompetitive, yet when it is happening here at home some defend the Illegals rights to use the same tactics against Americans inside their own country. I know many who are victims of this and recently became one myself. The company I worked for replaced me with an Illegal who was willing to work for half of what I made. Being fired had nothing to do with my work ethic or my job performance. According to some who still work for the company , my replacement does far less than half of what I did for the company and where they turned a profit on every project I managed for them , the last one that was taken over has lost money and is not even half done. For nearly three years I did nothing wrong and got $1000 bonus at Christmas and paid fishing trips to Florida as reward for my work. All the sudden an Illegal Alien offers to work for half and all the sudden I am gone. I take exception with those people who would claim they selectively only do jobs Americans will not do and have no impact on Americans. Most of you claiming this are paying a price already , although it is not in your face and you pay without knowing. Ask anyone who bought a home over the last ten years and had countless problems costing thousands of $ due to shoddy construction done by unskilled and unsupervised labor just because they were cheap. I have 30 years in the business and know what I am talking about , unlike some who support Illegals and claim they do no harm and are valuable assets in general. I still wonder sometimes do they really believe the lies or do they just want to believe since they cannot , or will not do anything about it? Bottom line is they have displaced hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans working in jobs they liked and did very well and would have continued to do if the Illegal Aliens had not been available to replace them. Quit feeling sorry for the Illegals and show some compassion for your next door neighbor or the guy that lives on the next block. just because you have not been directly affected does not mean others have not. Some what along the same lines , a lot of people need to start checking where the products they buy are made. For years I have always tried to seek out American made products and only spend my money on them when possible. Quit complaining about having no jobs and everything being made somewhere else while shopping at WalMart where 99% of everything is made in China.
raffaele cafagna
By executive order Obama has granted all kinds of little amnesties. He's even set up a 24/7 free hot line for illegals (that would be free to them - we pay for it). If arrested all they need to do is call the hotline - translation services provided - and an expert will look into their case and advise them of their rights!
I wonder what number I call if I get arrested for refusing a TSA pat down?
Dale Curry
@raffaele cafagna - I suggest you call Leo Berman or some other birther idiot who will say anything, any lie to frame their rhetoric. You know, like saying Obama has granted "little amnesties" despite the fact this administration has done more to secure the border in 3 years than the predecessor did in 8 failed years. Don't believe me, then try looking at the facts from somewhere other than Fox Propaganda!
Lib Grimmett
@Dale Curry - what flavor is that koolaid you are drinking? It must be awfully sweet to continue to believe the lies out of this administration! If he doesn't get a second term, you will be one of the lucky useful idiots who dodged a bullet & won't even know it! If he does get a second term, well, maybe we'll end up in the same camp - then we can compare notes.
Dale Curry
@ Lib Grimmett - Well speaking of Kool-Aide it would appear you been free-basin some of those Tparty lies and misrepresentations kool aide yourself. Lies, are you speaking of 1)weapons of mass destruction, 2) Iraq was involved in 9/11 or 3) Dick Cheney's "Deficits don't matter"? Sorry Charlie, but those lies are squarely in the corner of the previous administration. Are you speaking of death panels, or government takeover of healthcare? Again, your wrong - those particular lies are the product of Sarah Palin and Fox Propaganda. It is so typical of right wing fanatics (like you) that when you get called out on your lies, misrepresentations, and falsehoods you resort to calling people names. I will not sink to your level. As to camps, would it be named Niggerhead? Oh thats right, that's your Governor's hunting camps name........
Dale Curry
Lib Grimmett- You are such a funny person. Lies, would those be 1) Weapons of mass destruction or 2) Iraq was involved in 9/1, or 3) Dick Cheney's "Deficits don't' matter". Sorry Lib, that would be the previous administration's lies and misrepresentation. Frankly, no matter how often and how loud you spew your crap, you cannot and will not be allowed to blame the failure of Bush on this President. Or perhaps by lies you refer to 4) death panels or 5) government takeover of healthcare; but those were lies told by Palin and Fox Propaganda. Perhaps you refer to the quote that this administration is soft on terror, if so, why don't you ask bin laden who is soft. Perhaps you refer to the whole Obama was born in Kenya. But that is not just a lie, that is just some more Tparty RACIST propaganda. As to camps, will it be named Niggerhead? Again, your wrong, that's the name of your precious Governor's hunting camp......
It is so typical for you to call me a name. When your side is called down on the lies, misrepresentations, half truths, lies of omission, and propaganda...It is what you do. Call them a name. No, I will not stoop to your trailer park level of name calling and spewing falsehood. Have a blessed day.
raffaele cafagna
DALE CURRY THIS IS ABOUT YOUR PRESIDENT
VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
> >
>
> AP - WASHINGTON D.C. -
>
>
>
> In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for
the
> presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has
released
> copies of President Obama's college transcripts from
Occidental College.
> Released today, the school transcript indicates
that Obama, under the name
> Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a
foreign student from Indonesia as
> an undergraduate. The transcript was
released by Occidental College in
> compliance with a court order in a
suit brought by the group in the Superior
> Court of California. The
transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for
> financial aid and
was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the
> Fulbright
Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a
>
student must claim foreign citizenship.
> >
>
> This
document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's
>
detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first
> born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US
citizenship,
> this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a
firestorm at the White
> House as the release casts increasing doubt
about Obama's legitimacy and
> qualification to serve as President
article titled, "Obama Eligibility
> Questioned," leading some to
speculate that the story may overshadow economic
> issues on Obama's
first official visit to the U.K.
>
>
> In a related
matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice
> Antonin
Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear
>
arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a
> case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims
Obama's
> dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president..
Donofrio's case
> is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding
proof of Obama's
> citizenship or qualification to serve as
president.
> >
> Gary Kreep of the United States Justice
Foundation has released the
> results of their investigation of Obama's
campaign spending. This study
> estimates that Obama has spent upwards
of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past
> year with eleven law firms
in 12 states for legal resources to block
> disclosure of any of his
personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the
> investigation is still
ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S.
>
Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the
> matter.
>
>
> LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE
MEDIA WON'T!
> >
> Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?
>
>
> While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the
Obama birth
> issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and
believes the issue can
> be resolved by Obama answering one simple
question: What passport did he use
> when he was shuttling between New
York, Jakarta and Karachi?
>
>
> So how did a young man
who arrived in New York in early June 1981,
> without the price of a
hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price
> of a
round-the-world trip just a month later? And once he was on a plane,
>
shuttling between New York, Jakarta and Karachi, what passport was he
>
offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
>
>
> The American people not only deserve to have answers to these
questions,
> they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's
citizenship a
> rather short and simple one:
>
>
>
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
>
>
>
> A: Yes, by his own admission.
> >
> Q: What passport
did he travel under?
>
>
> A: There are only three
possibilities.
> >
> 1) He traveled with a U.S.
Passport,
> >
> 2) He traveled with a British passport,
or
> >
> 3) He traveled with an Indonesia
passport.
>>
> Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a
U.S. Passport in 1981?
>
> A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan
was on the U.S. State Department's
> "no travel" list in 1981.
>
> Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling
either
> with a British passport or an Indonesian passport. If he were
traveling with
> a British passport, that would provide proof that he
was born in Kenya on
> August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And
if he were traveling with
> an Indonesian passport, that would tend to
prove that he relinquished
> whatever previous citizenship he held,
British or American, prior to being
> adopted by his Indonesian
step-father in 1967.
>
>
> Whatever the truth of the
matter, the American people need to know how he
> managed to become a
"natural born" American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
>
> Given
the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by
>
his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has
>
presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the
better.
> >
> If you don't care that Your President is not a
natural born Citizen and
> in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete
this, and then lower your
> American Flag to half-staff, because the
U.S. Constitution is already on
> life-support, and won't survive much
longer.
raffaele cafagna
DALE CURRY FOR YOU TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IMMIGRATION
The visa lottery gives 55,000 green cards to people without any regard to their humanitarian need or to what they might offer the country or to their having any family connections here. Considering that 22 million Americans cannot find a job, it is unwise to continue to allow tens of thousands of immigrants to come to this country without regard to their skills, education, or job prospects.
More information:
The visa lottery promotes massive illegal migration by people who think they may some day win the lottery and be allowed to stay in the United States. The late Barbara Jordan, as Chair of the U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform, recommended the elimination of the visa lottery. A 2004 hearing of the House Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims examined the visa lottery program and its susceptibility to fraud and abuse. At the hearing, witness Jan Ting, professor of law at Temple University, said that the lottery program is unfair because spouses and minor children of lawful permanent residents often have to wait years for a visa, while the U.S. hands out 55,000 visas a year purely on the basis of a random lottery. Ting also noted that the lottery discriminates on the basis of ethnicity and race.
According to a Center for Immigration Studies report, the following people were given legal status through the visa lottery:
Hesham Hedayet, who killed airline personnel at LAX on July 4, 2002.
Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook, a U.S. Hamas leader who was detained for terrorist activities and deported in 1997.
Similar legislation was passed by a broad, bipartisan majority (273 - 148) of bipartisan members in the House during the 109th Congress as an amendment to the House's enforcement-only bill (H.R. 4437), received 59 cosponsors during the 110th Congress (H.R. 1430), and 61 cosponsors during the 111th Congress (H.R. 2305).
Dale Curry
@ Rafael - you know you just do not seem to get it do you. After all the lies and misrepresentations on your side of the political divide, you and your ilk have NO standing credibility. Frankly, you lost me at Weapons of mass delusion . And for you to think that anyone is going to believe YOU when you tell me the President with to school under an assumed name is hilarious. Do you have any idea how many people who read this will laugh. Please keep these racist and bigoted birther posts up, the more you do the more rational and honest people realize that the right is trying to sell them another load of crap. (e.g. weapons of mass destruction, the housing crisis, two wars financed by the Chinese, Iraq was part of 9/11, death panels, government takeover of healthcare, Obama is s socialist, Obama is a muslim, etc). Rational people no longer believe you and your fellow birthers. Your racist rants are a national embarrassment.
So let me be clear. Anyone who subscribes to the bulls**t that Obama is foreign born, and not a US citizen is, by any and all rational standards a bigot. You could not be a bigger racist unless you wrapped yourself in a sheet.
It is abhorrent that after 50 years for the struggle for equality in this nation, that our first black president is forced to produce his birth certificate. And then even that is not good enough. It is embarrassing for us as a nation. It does not even matter if you do not support the President. I have quite a few GOP friends and not one of them dispute the President's citizenship.
Shame on YOU!
Dale Curry
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You are too sad and pathetic for words. It is depressing to think that such race driven rhetoric is pushed off as news by the likes of you.
raffaele cafagna
DALE CURRY: Please Read : This is an American writing your president ,asking for answers. ( This is not my post , it was sent to me ) ; DALE CURRY your insults do not offend me or other honest Patriots Americans participating here; instead it confirms your extreme liberals, socialistic ,marxist mentality and you need to see for yourself what is like to be one of them : in fact I suggest you go to India , Nepal , Pakistan , Bangladesh , the Balkans , Romania , Bulgaria and so on .( yes I have been there) See for yourself the meaning of being one oppressed citizen of a socialist rule. You do not understand , you do not have a concept of * Freedom * or a * Free man in a Free Nation * YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW GOOD YOU GOT IT IN AMERICA UNTIL YOU HAVE SEEN THE OTHER SIDE and by the way I was born in Africa and came here * LEGALLY * in 1970 ; 76 I became a Naturalized U.S. Citizen ; this is my Home, my Land, my Country, I am an American ; I served and retired from the U.S. Army ; YOU DALE CURRY SHUT THE HELL UP : REVOLVE YOUR TONGUE AROUND 33 times and speak afterwards; ( that is speak after thinking, old African saying ). Stop insulting Americans and face the existing facts that Freedom is not Free and our Freedom is about to go away and we are about to became Slaves of a corrupt illegal usurper liar; WAKE UP DALE CURRY, YOU ARE AN AMERICAN , A FREE MAN IN A FREE NATION ..............................
Dear Mr. President,I am writing to explain why so many Americans are questioning your ideology, motives and intentions. Doing the research on your background has made us seriously doubt whether you embrace Capitalism or America for that matter. The United States has been the envy of the world because of the opportunities we offer and where the poorest of our poor, live better than 90% of the planet. The following is very disturbing.We realize now that your parents were Communists as well as your stepfather, grandparents who raised you from ages 10 to 18 and mentor, Frank Davis. You have launched your campaign in the home of William Ayers, a Communist terrorist bomber, appointed self proclaimed Communists as unaccountable czars and in other key leadership positions. George Soros, a Communist that has made billions toppling economies, has visited the White house no less than nine times. You also gave a Brazilian oil conglomerate billions of our tax dollars to drill in waters deeper than you allow us to drill. George Soros happens to be a major stockholder in this Brazilian company but, I’m getting off track.After reading the writings and teachings of Cloward/Piven and Saul Alinsky, Communist professors, many of us have come to the conclusion that your upbringing and ideology are following their game plan for the destruction of America. They teach us that the best way to destroy America is from within. Infiltrate the government, educational system and the media. Overload the country with entitlement programs until the economy implodes, that is when people will truly be dependent on government. Truth means nothing and the end justifies the means. When you do something wrong, blame your opponent, when they do something right, take credit for it. Always attack the opposition and never let up. The real power in America is to be obtained through the guilt of the white middle class. Stifle the free market and block any attempts for true independence. The collective is more important than any individual.The following are just a few examples why many of us do not believe you honor or admire the Constitution or the country our incredibly brilliant founding fathers envisioned. Forgive me for missing some, but I am sure you will understand my reasoning.1) We were promised health care debates on CSPAN. Only to find out the Universal Health care Bill was written in private by lobbyists and we had to vote for it to see what was in it.2) We were promised no lobbyists in your administration and we know how that turned out.3) We were promised unemployment would not go over 8% if we voted for your Stimulus Program. What is even more disturbing are the unemployment numbers you are trying to convince us are accurate. Yet, you don’t include the people who have quit looking for work. Depending on the report you read, brings unemployment closer to 12% to 17%. You also expand government like adding on 17,000 IRS agents and claim it as a victory in fighting unemployment. What you don’t explain is that it takes seven to eight private sector jobs of comparable salaries to pay for one government position. In other words, it would take at least 119,000 private sector jobs of equal salary to pay for the 17,000 IRS agents’ benefits and wages. At best, your figures are disingenuous. 4) We were promised you would open up drilling. Instead you have closed drilling and are blocking a pipeline that will make us less vulnerable to countries that want to destroy our way of life. Not to mention the jobs it would create. You have also been taped as saying you are going to tax the coal companies out of existence. Not to mention the refusal to create clean energy through nuclear power, even though Europe gets 70% of their energy through this technology. Do you really want us to become energy independent and stop sending hundreds of billions of our hard earned dollars to the Middle East and Venezuela? Your actions say otherwise.5) We see companies like GE, who owned NBC and its affiliates, not having to pay taxes on over 60 billion in profits. I won’t go into how their employees were not allowed to say anything negative about you and how they use Saul Alinsky style tactics to denigrate the opposition. We are also aware of GE’s investment in the Green Agenda and how they stand to profit hundreds of billions through this technology. Don’t you understand that we are seeing the connection?6) We see that for a few hundred thousand dollars in campaign donations will allow your supporters like Solyndra and Range Fuel, to receive hundreds of billions in government loans and subsidies. We do understand the connections and unbridled support of these companies even when your own administration says they are undesirable investments.7) We also see how you have embraced our enemies and insulted our allies. We now know that you were once a Muslim, at least in Indonesia where you attended school, have said the music to attend morning Muslim prayers is the most beautiful sound on earth, how you wrote in your book “Audacity of Hope” “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”, how you said you visited all 57 states when there are actually 57 Muslim states, your religion was Islam until George Stephanopoulos corrected you and how you attended a church for twenty years that honors the likes of Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader. By the way, we have also found out that the Black Liberation Church you attended was a spin off of Liberation Theology that the Communists tried to implement in South America during the Che Guevara days. Fortunately, Catholicism was too strong in South America and it didn’t take root. Many of us were also disgusted in how you told Israel how to place their borders. We heard how you told us that in no uncertain terms that we should never invade a country that shows us no imminent threat. Yet, you invade Libya and Uganda without Congressional approval. We are now seeing the Muslim Brotherhood leading these and surrounding nations. Is there a connection here? You do not attend our National Day of Prayer, but attend the Muslim equivalent. Your family does not celebrate Xmas and there have been Christmas ornaments celebrating Chairman Mao and other radicals. Can’t you understand that we are beginning to question your allegiance? 8) We have seen relentless attacks of racism on anyone that disagrees with you. May I remind you of a few of your quotes? From Dreams From My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites." "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race." "There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white." "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names." "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela." We also see organizations like ACORN and LaRaza that proudly display Communist posters in their facilities. On a different note, why do we give tax payer funds to an organization that has in their manifesto to take over the Southwest United States? Have you ever heard the term “Guilt by association”? We are wondering if it is true.9) We are learning more about or should I say less about your earlier years. Why spend millions hiding your Long Form Birth certificate? Why not bring experts in to circumvent the questions that said birth certificate was photo-shopped? How did you go to Pakistan twice when it was illegal to go there? How did you get a scholarship given only to foreigners? Why can’t we see your passports, student applications, papers, thesis or any documentation relating to your youth and beliefs? Why don’t you clear up the question about your Social Security number coming from Connecticut, a state you have never lived in? Why don’t we know any of your ex-girlfriends, classmates or friends in your college days? Why did you and your wife have to give up your law licenses? The line that it was too expensive to maintain when you are not actually practicing doesn’t really work. Many believe answers to these questions will enhance your chances of reelection.10) We have seen so many of your appointees and associates lie and break the law with no consequence. For example Eric Holder, Rangle, Geitner, Dodd, Frank and so many others. After six months in office you fired Inspector General for Americorps, Gerald Walpin, immediately once he discovered that a major backer of yours, Kevin Johnson, was found illegally using taxpayer funds. The irony of the firing is that you cosponsored a bill that made it illegal to fire a Inspector General for at least thirty days. We see convicted Black Panthers released without them even requesting the dismissal of charges. We see you immediately say that a white officer was racist when he detained a black Professor friend of yours. We see that Eric Holder was bragging about implementing “Operation Gunrunner” in 2009, but claims he knew nothing about “Fast and Furious”, which is virtually the same program. Now they are pleading the fifth so they will not incriminate themselves or others. These are government employees pleading the fifth? That is insane. Many of us are curious if those pleading the fifth will be promoted.11) The Cap and Trade bill was initially passed without anyone being able to read it. What happened to your promise that bills would be on the internet for two weeks before a vote? Please clear something up for me regarding Cap and Trade. I’m not here to argue if man influences climate change, I will leave that for the experts to debate, if the debate is ever allowed. What bothers me is that the bill would tax us a trillion a year so, according to your Secretary of Energy Chu, would cause Americans to use less fossil fuel. The irony is that none of the tax money collected would go to cleaning up pollution or helping our infrastructure or paying down our debt. The money is earmarked for third world countries. Spreading the wealth around is a Communist philosophy, not Capitalist. Capitalist spread their wealth around by being charitable and not with funds they can't afford to spend.Mr. President, there are so many other questions I could bring up. But, we are seeing a trend that rings a resounding anti-American belief. Without going into detail, here are just a few. The unconstitutional defense bill that was just passed( when you rallied against the Patriot Act), Cash For Clunkers, car dealerships closed that were overwhelmingly supporters of Republicans, travel expenses for you and your family, tax cheats freed, insider trading condoned, EPA controlling business, your planned domestic army that will rival our military, campaign speeches at Caterpillar and other companies (then they open plants in China), lack of access by reporters who do not support you, refusing help from nineteen nations to clean up the Gulf Oil Spill, clearing the swamp of corruption, why Michelle needs seven times more assistants than any First Lady in history, where is the 1.2 billion Corzine can’t find, why your illegal relatives are still in this country getting aid that is meant for Americans, why you will not let states enforce our immigration laws, why you refuse to acknowledge Islamist terrorists for what they are (even when they yell Allah Akbar while they are killing people), what future do you see for Israel, why the US Geological report says the United States has more oil than the Middle East combined and we can get it for $16 a barrel (why not use our own) and what are you really trying to accomplish? I love this country and respect the position of President more than you can possibly understand. If called upon, I would lay down my life for this country that so many have done before me. Please take this opportunity and set the record straight. I hope you understand that I am not alone in my statements and it would benefit you and your future chances of reelection if addressed. More to the point, we are owed some answers.
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David Spratt
Dale , You really should concentrate on what is happening now and not what happened 10 years ago. It seems you are so focused on what George Bush did you cannot see what this president is doing.As an Independent Conservative, not a Republican , I can find plenty to criticize Bush on as well as Reagan, Clinton, Carter, Bush 41 and every president I actually remember being in Office going back to Kennedy. As an intellectual exercise in Presidential History it is useful to look back every now and again to see where you have been , but as with many people who slam on their brakes when they think someone is following them too close , they fail to pay adequate attention to what is in front of them.
Aside from the fact he lied about getting a " Lewinsky" , Bill Clinton and although I disagreed with some things he supported , overall I Like and respect him. He agrees with very little of the policies of Obama , and Bill Clinton is not stupid.
Obama garnered the majority of the black vote, besides the fact they traditionally vote Democratic to begin with, most voted simply because he was black. Many still feel the need to defend him even though he has done very little for them and not much has improved for them . The race card was a factor in his election and it trumped the " Female Card," in who would be a first in 2008. It is still played conspicuously by some. When people from all over the world can immigrate here and become successful within a few short years , or a single lifetime that FACT extinguishes the idea that race alone is a major factor in whether a person succeeds or fails. May have been true in the past , but not today.
I would hope that no matter who is running the country , we could all be prosperous and ANY Presidential Administration would be successful. Claims that all Conservatives WANT him to fail is just senseless. Many of us are not stupid enough to wish to cut off our nose to spite our faces. No matter what happened before he took office, the fact is not much is improving , and on many fronts things are getting worse. I could not blame my job failures on my predecessor for more than a very short period of time before it would be expected that I turn things around or else I will be gone. He is promising much more than can be reasonably delivered. That is a red flag. Very little of what he promised in 2007-2008 has been delivered. It used to be Bushes fault , and maybe some of it was, but this is three years later and if Bush was " unpatriotic" for running up 4 billion in debt over 8 years ,, what would I call tacking on another 5 to 6 billion in 4 years? Besides killing Bin Ladin what has he done that is so notable to warrant another term? Many people like him and think he is trying. That is all well and good , but has he been effective? Blaming Bush and Republicans in general is not getting the job done, and that is another FACT. The reasons for his apparent failures, whether you agree or not, matter less than the ability he lacks to overcome them . It may be set in stone in the liberal mindset that if it were not for this or that reason he would be wildly successful. Those conditions do not exist and probably will not . The Democrats would do better to discard him and nominate Hillary.
I did not believe him the first time around and do not believe him now. McCain was a weak candidate and I could have voted for Hillary with no problem, over a weak mealy mouth McCain. No matter who is in I want to see some action , not a bunch of squabbling , excuses and finger pointing. Just because he is " Your Guy" does not mean he is the right guy. Plenty of people have members of their families who have commited all manners of crimes, some of them horrendous , and they still stand by them just because they are family. I can understand that concept , but in their own minds they cannot possibly agree with or support those actions.
Dale Curry
David, I hope this email finds you and yours well and happy. I would begin by respectfully suggesting your remember the lies, dishonesty, and utter corruption that was the hallmarks of the Bush Administration. I would also remind you, that Clinton left our nation in peace and with a surplus. It took George Bush less than a year to wipe out both. While you might feel that I am too concerned about what happened 10 years ago, it is this same group within the GOP who have systematically lied and engaged in a disinformation campaign about this administration that would make Goebbels blush. The entire reason I bring these FACTS up in my comments is to point out that for myself, and quite a few independents, the lies, misinformation, and corruption (how many no bid contracts did Halliburton get in Iraq?) speak volumes as to the RIGHTS CREDIBILITY. And they have done little to improve their credibility since then. From 1) he is a muslim, 2) not an American citizen, 3) death panels 4) he is a socialist, 5) Government takeover of health care; it has been one deliberate lie and disinformation campaign after another. Accordingly, I would like to respectfully make the following points:
1. Ahh the Cllinton/Lewisky matter. The inherent hypocrisy of the right and their relentless attack on Clinton and now Obama could not have been clearer than this debacle. While I have not found the total
cost, the most recent cost figures for Starr's witch-hunt was over $47. million. I believe it ended up a
great deal more. It was and is the single most expensive special investigation in our nations history. All over a consenting sexual act that so morally outraged the right. The GOP was all morally superior until it was disclosed that then speaker, Bob Livingston, had also been having an affair and was forced to resign at the beginning of the impeachment hearings. Before that, he was all to ready to criticize and blame Clinton for his actions. Now years later, we learn that Gingrich (at about the same time) was asking his second wife (diagnosed with MS) for an open relationship with his now current wife. I will take the high road on discussing both Gingrich and his wife. Both of which would make a New Orleans prostitute during Ship week blush.
2. Obama's policies do NOT differ significantly than Clintons. Additionally, it is important to remember that Clinton did not have to deal with an economy in full Bush recession and tethering on a depression when he took office. Furthermore, Clinton has been a staunch supporter of this administration. I am afraid you are incorrect in this assertion
3. David, I have seen you take some right wing bigots to task for spewing their bile in the name of GOP rhetoric. FRANKLY, IT WAS THOSE ACT(S) THAT LEFT ME WITH A SENSE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO COURAGEOUSLY STAND UP TO THE RACE BAITING AND BIGOTRY THAT HAS BEEN THE HALLMARK OF THE TPARTY. Yet, for you to speak at such lengths about the black vote and their support for this administration because he is black is somewhat offensive. Not to mention that I would dispute some of those allegations made in this regard,
4. Claims that Conservatives want this president to fail is not SENSELESS. Do you recall the GOP officials that Limbaugh took to task the first week(s) of this administration for just saying they (GOP) could work with this President? I do. If you want, I will be happy to research just who was taken to task, but there were a few. When Michael Steele dismissed Limbaugh and his calls for this President to fail as an "entertainer" and not reflective of the GOP, he was forced to apologize to that fat racist POS.
5. Not much is improving? That is selective recall and very inaccurate. When this President took office we had lost over 4 million jobs and were loosing another 600,000 per month. The last depression took us 10+ years to come out of, and yet your side has blamed this President for the abysmal mess Bush and his cronies left behind. And while we are NOWHERE near where we want to be, we are enjoying job growth (albeit tepid) as opposed to ongoing job losses as our economy was left tethering on the edge.
6. What else has he done? Health care reform, keeping our nation out of a depression, he has ended the war in Iraq, he is ending the war in Afghanistan, repealed don't ask don't tell, and not only killing bin Laden but also 30+ of the senior Al Queda leadership. More than Bush was able to do in 10 years. He has cut trillions from a budget deficit he inherited. (You have every right to dispute the effectiveness of the stimulus and therefore it's spending however, blaming this President for the deficits when they exceeded 1.3 trillion on the day he took office is a LIE).
7. As to Obama being "My Guy", allow me to be clear. I was a Hillary/Clinton man. That being said, I have been very pleased with this President and his policies.
As to you closing where you discussed crimes, are you implying this President has committed crimes? If so, what crimes. I trust your not going to give me the bigoted birthter crap. David, I have too much respect for your comments for you to sink to that level. I appreciate that you cannot support this President, but I believe and hope that engaging in such lies and misinformation that is the basis of the Birtherism and their particular brand of racism is far beneath you.
Thank you for your comments, and I do hope that after this election we can come together as a nation to address our problems.
Dale Curry
@ Rafael -
Sorry Charlie, but I am no longer reading your racist birther lies. I doubt many others are willing to spend even one second reading that crap you have been posting. Your entire claim that this President not only went to college but traveled the globe under an assumed name is just so much racist lies an bigotry that it leaves me sad and anxious for our nation. i do not know what God, if any, you worship; however, you should ask forgiveness for the blatant lies about this President that you, and your ilk, has tried to force down our nation'' throat. I know that I will be praying for you, you definitely need some divine guidance!
Juan Reynoso
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Mr. President, illegal immigration cost our country and the American tax payers billions of Dollars, this is an expenses that we can cut by enforcing our immigration laws.
I pray to the Lord every day to give you the wisdom to see, what your ill policies are doing to our country. Your policy that concern me the most is Immigration. As I understand you voided our immigration laws, because you claim that we as Americans can not deport 12 million illegal aliens, the fact that ignoring our laws and letting the millions of illegal aliens trampled our Constitution and the rule of law, because you want to protect the hordes of invaders, that just want a better life, it is not of any concern to you, let me to believe that you are the most stupid or incompetent president; I voted for you and I as American have the responsibility to inform you, that your immigration policies is placing a huge burden to our communities and our country; now we not only have to content with the poor Mexicans that enter our country illegally but the rich Mexicans that over stay their visas enroll their children's in our schools free at our expenses. You Mr. President is forcing us to pay for the education of the rich Mexicans. Your immigration policies allowed them to enter our country and stay here and enroll in our schools free. We are force by your corrupt administration to pay for the cost of educating the Illegal aliens, I paid over $10,000 Dollars in property taxes every year. I am in social security and Bush and you cost me thousands of Dollars because your F$%# foreign intervention and economic policies.
Mr. President, I voted for you because I believe on you BS, But today I will do every thing in my power to throw you out of the White House, you are a disgrace to our country and most important to the people that you deceived with your lies.
American deserve an honest president that stand for our Constitution, our sovereignty, enforce our laws and stand for the American people. I do not believe that these Mexicans that you protect against the will of the American people cast a single vote for you.
Mr. President, these illegal aliens are not willing to be Americans, not willing to abide our laws, not willing to learn our language or be part of our country; they are here for not other reason than to take our jobs and use our system and raid Americans of their monetary resources. Mr. President where is your loyalty, to our country or to Mexico, what Mexico have done for you?; We made you, from being a rookie senator to be our President; do your job and duty, up hold the oath that you took in the name of God and do not continue betraying the American people, we have enough.
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