Immigration Falls as Campaign Border Rhetoric Soars
Campaign rhetoric to the contrary, statistics show that the number of illegal immigrants crossing the border is less of a problem now than it has been for four decades.
While presidential candidates talk about how to secure the U.S.-Mexico border, data reveals that their focus should be on other problems caused by illegal immigration. Apprehensions by the U.S. Border Patrol are at their lowest level since the Nixon era, according to unofficial statistics from the Border Patrol that the Washington Post reported earlier this month.
A sour economy, increased enforcement by the Border Patrol and skyrocketing smuggling ...
Comments (22)
David Spratt
327,500 apprehensions. The Border Patrol estimates they actually catch 1 in 5. So only slightly more than a million actually made it through , as opposed to the million and a half the previous year. This is cause to pop the corks and celebrate?
The only reason more are not coming is because there are few jobs left , and in the sectors of the economy they participate in they have already displaced 6 to 10 million workers already and driven wages as low as they can go. It has gotten to the point that even they cannot band together sharing expenses and survive. When going back to Mexico seems like a better choice than staying here you know things are bad. If and when our economy recovers and starts to grow the flood will begin again. Now is not the time to relax and consider the problem solved. Now is the time to finish the fence, put more assets on the ground and in the air. Continue to push for universal use of E Verify, and enforcement efforts overall.
The President claims he is reducing taxes , and trying to pass jobs bills all in the name of helping the American People , he claims to be so concerned about. Allowing Illegals to continue to ride the coattails of all these efforts , weak as they are, will only slow down and reduce the benefits felt by the American people. As well if things do turn around to any degree the illegals will be the first to reap the benefits since they are the cheapest labor available and will be the first ones hired.
What number of illegals crossing the border is acceptable? Catching 200,000 and only 800,000 slipping through? Half a million getting across and into the workforce? O ( ZERO) should be the goal. We all know perfection is never achieved but striving for it should always be the goal no matter what you are doing. Pulling our military out of other countries will allow radical terrorist groups free reign to operate , plot and plan. Reinforcing our border security should be a major priority. If 300,000 people crossing and making it through is acceptable, how many does it take to seriously injure or kill thousands of Americans in a single act ? As we pull back to within our own borders it will in effect be the same as them being at our front or back door before we have any chance of doing anything about it.
Don't confuse compassion for Illegals with the need for National security and the need for a closed secure border , with 100% of it under the operational control of law enforcement. The economic security , the security of the nation and the personal security of every single American depends on it.
I can hear it now when the day comes a strike is made and hundreds if not thousands or millions of Americans are killed and injured, all those opposing a secure border and the removal of all illegals , will blame the people who want a secure border , saying " Well you did not secure the border and enforce the law , so it is your fault." This is in effect what they are saying now. Since the laws have not been enforced , the border is not secure , it is our fault, ( All of us who have been saying this for 20 years). The whole time these folks making these claims have fought our efforts every step of the way , and still continue to do so. They only thing I can take away from the debate is that those on the side of law and order , have not explained it in simple enough terms they can understand.
gypsy314 ne
Considering the source and the fuzzy math from Obama and crew I would not put much water toward this story. I know for a fact 75% of Americans want borders secured and illegal aliens to be deport NOW. The children should go with there parents not be left behind for us to care for any longer. Remember a vote for a democrat is a vote for Obama and illegal aliens, homosexuals and terrorist.
David Holzman
Is this a news story or an opinion piece? You interview immigrant advocates without interviewing restrictionists. No thoughtful restrictionists advocate the round-em-up-and-deport-em-in-one-fell-swoop approach. They all advocate attrition through enforcement. Furthermore, I'm betting the polls you are quoting did not give the option of attrition through enforcement, or they would have found that Republicans favor that over amnesty. (Even Americans of Hispanic extraction oppose amnesty by a whopping 52 to 34 percent (zogby, feb. 2010) when given the option of attrition through enforcement.)
Next time you write an article about immigration, you might want to interview Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies and/or Roy Beck of NumbersUSA.com. These people will provide some valuable perspective.
Stefanie Herweck via Texas Tribune on Facebook
I appreciate that Julian Aguilar is finally using creditable sources for an article about immigration, rather than repeating uncritically the bizarre claims of anti-immigrant think tanks the way he has done in the past. Still I wonder how he squares the present findings with his spurious story in September that 40% of new jobs in Texas went to undocumented immigrants, and I wonder why the Tribune has not retracted that atrocious article.
David Spratt
The people that want to criticize the legislature for cutting funding for education are many of the same ones advocating for the Illegal population. Consider the fact that Perry has funded additional efforts at the border to the tune of 400 million $ , and it should be twice that at the least. We have a prison population of around 150,000 people laying around in prison and 25% of them are Illegals. How much is this costing us all? A few weeks ago it was reported Texas spent 5 billion $ on food assistance programs. One category was , Children, the other two were Adults and families. Who are these " Children" that do not have families , and therefore fit into that category? They are the Anchor Babies of Illegals. How much is this costing us? How many American citizens as well as other Illegals have been raped , murdered, or been victims of other crimes by Illegals , and what is the cost of that?
The fact is that if the Federal Government was doing their job the state would not have to spend all these billions of $ to protect the Citizens of the State. Sitting back and making excuses because they are not doing this does nothing to remedy the problem. If the police department of any city decided they were just not going to enforce any laws and let criminals run the streets , would the citizens sit back and do nothing about it, saying oh well the police dept is not doing their job so we will just do nothing? I think not. They would band together to protect each other on their own. It would fall upon the citizens themselves to uphold the law.
Granted not all illegals are criminals , but on the other hand if they were not so prevalent and allowed free reign then crimes committed by Illegals would be far and few between. Imagine the reporting of a crime committed by an illegal Alien being a rare occurrence ! Not so much now. Every single day these stories happen, by the hundreds across the nation.
If I came home after work at the end of the day and there were people in my house i would not care WHY they were there , whether they were hungry and just wanted to eat a bowl of cereal or back up a truck and haul off everything I own. I do not care what the reason is , the fact is they are in violation of the law and violating my rights. Everyone is so worried about the illegal aliens and " their rights." What rights do they have exactly that supersede those of American Citizens? Does being a natural born American Citizen really mean anything anymore , or are those who are, reduced in status equal to or in many cases below that of an Illegal Immigrant? Are the rights and privileges of being an American Citizen afforded any special value or are they diminished to being of no value since anyone who wants them can simply come and lay claim .
When I went to school we were taught that we should be both proud and thankful we were Americans. Besides life itself this was the single most valuable thing we possessed , was an American Citizenship. Not everyone could have this gift , and those to whom it was granted through naturalization were truly grateful as if they had gained something of great value beyond the value of anything else money could buy. It is priceless, or it used to be. What is it's true value today , when anyone who wants to can just come for whatever reason they want and receive the same rights , privileges and benefits as a natural born American Citizen? There would seem to be little point in identifying ones self as an American today. Why even bother , when nothing sets you apart from anyone else anywhere in the world? Are we special, exceptional , blessed, or are we simply no better than anyone else anywhere in the world? This type of mentality does not lend itself to the survival of a Great Nation. This thinking does not promote a sense of National Unity , identity , or a cohesive society in pursuit of common good or goals.
This lack of a common cause is notable in our society as well as government and is growing. Some people need to remember what it means to be an American and remember that it is a very special thing and not everyone can say that, nor should everyone be able to say that. If this designation is allowed everyone without restriction or condition then it ceases to mean anything and has no value at all.
Dale Curry
Thank you Texas Tribune, for putting to some facts out there that demonstrates the lies, rhetoric, and misinformation of the Tparty/GOP on this issue. Since this president has taken office, it has been one lie and misrepresentation after another. Clearly, the following is NOT true:
1. This President has allowed a flood of illegals in this country. No, while I agree that much of the
DECLINE (as opposed to Tparty lies of increase) has to do with the Bush Recession, this President has
done more in this regards than Bush did in his entire 8 failed years.
2. I also have to say that I was surprised at the statistics quoted by the Tribune in regards to Republican
support (58%) for a path to legalization with only 39% of GOP opposed. Thank you very much for this
information, I remain shocked.
3. Despite Mr. Spratt's rhetoric and attempts to change the subject to POTUS push for reduction in payroll
taxes and the Jobs Bill, the fact is that there is a huge gap between Tparty rhetoric and the truth when
it comes to this President, his policies, and their position on immigration. Essentially the "Death
panels" of immigration, if you will.
4. I urge everyone reading gypsy's comments to check her other comments. Remember a vote like gypsy
is a vote for bigotry and hatred.
Thanks again to the Tribune for giving us facts as opposed to the radical right's rhetoric.
David Holzman
@dale curry: the polls the TT is quoting are almost certainly skewed by the wrong questions. No restrictionists who think about this issue at all deeply advocate round-em-up-and-deport-em-in-one-fell-swoop. They advocate attrition through enforcement, which means enforcing existing laws, passing a mandatory e-verify so that illegals can't get jobs, and generally ceasing policies that enable illegal immigrants such as drivers licenses, they will go home, as the NYT documented:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/12/us/12arizona.html?_r=1&scp=3&sq=immigration+arizona+mexico+&st=nyt
The problem with the polls is that they give people a choice between amnesty and round-em-up. When they give a choice of amnesty vs attrition through enforcement, the vast majority of Americans, including nearly half of democrats, support the latter. Even Americans of Hispanic extraction oppose amnesty by a whopping 52 to 34 percent (zogby feb. 2010). (And why wouldn't they? They're issues are just like the rest of ours, contrary to what the open borders lobby would have you believe.
And even liberal Democrats like me oppose amnesty because it really does take jobs from Americans, as the NYT's Nicholas Kristof showed here: select.nytimes.com/2006/04/09/opinion/09kristof.html
(if the link doesn't work google compassion that hurts)
and because you can't have a welfare state with open borders as the NYT's Paul Krugman explained
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/the-curious-politics-of-immigration/
And because it's an environmental disaster due to overpopulation as explained in the Society for Environmental Journalists' publication
http://tinyurl.com/imm-envt
Gary Malone via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Article says apprehensions are down....not crossings! Still 10.2+ non tax paying leeches in the country
Dale Curry
At David Holzman - thank you for your comments, they have left me with a changing perspective. Like you, I am a liberal democrat. I have found much of the right's rhetoric on this subject to be filled with bigotry and hatred for those different. However, like Klugman, I strongly support a strong social net for Americans, and see his point, it is difficult to have such with open immigration. It would appear the term Amnesty means different things to different people and groups. For those immigrants here illegally, that have made a life for themselves and are functioning members of our society, I do not support deportation or even draconian policies that would force their return. However, despite the rhetoric and lies from the Tparty, nor do I support wholesale, "OK, your all citizens now." There should be a comprehensive approach to this problem, that secures our border and does not leave us with draconian and inhumane treatment of those who want to be an American citizen. Again, thank you for your comments and links
David Holzman
@ Dale Curry:
the first problem with citizenship for anyone here illegally is that once they become citizens, they can bring all their extended relatives, and we have a population that's probably gone beyond ecological sustainability, in a world where we--the major industrialized nation with the greatest per capita resource use and greenhouse emissions--should be the last to allow our population to increase (which it is doing faster than any other western nation, thanks to mass immigration. Our 310 million now is projected to rise close to 440 million by midcentury, 82% of that growth due to immigration, according to the Pew Research Center). If we adopted a policy to stabilize our population, fast, I would have less problem with citizenship.
Nonetheless, there would remain the issue that giving citizenship to some makes it tempting for more to immigrate illegally, in the hope that they will eventually receive amnesty. We've been through this before--in 1986, there was an amnesty of a little over a million, I think. At the time, Ted Kennedy (whose family unification legislation of 1965 is responsible for adding probably 30-40 million to the population since then, maybe more) had this to say: ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’
V Marshall
The Houston Chronicle published an editorial today calling for an honest debate on immigration reform. I agree entirely. Part of the roadblock to reform has been people's lack of trust that politicians, activist groups, public policy think tanks are being honest. I think part of that stems from the 1986 reform that resulted in 3 times as many people applying as Reagan had assured people were in the country illegally.
We can easily rectify that be requiring people to register now before any discussion starts. Once people see that none of these groups are lying and that no more than 11 million people register, 2/3 of whom been in the country for more than 10 years and own homes and pay taxes, people will regain their trust. When we see that Obama is not lying, and that virtually no immigrants have entered the country in the past 3 years, people will trust the rest of his plan. Register people with their US born children children linked so that taxpayers can see that they have been wrong about the cost. When people see that few families get subsidies, Medicaid etc. they will calm down. When local taxpayers see how much each family contributes in property tax toward the $9000 per student cost for Pre-K-12, they will cease to object and we can finally get this done.
Kudos to the Houston Chronicle for demanding an honest conversation rather than the typical rhetoric, disinformation and misinformation.
David Spratt
What would happen if the " facts" proved there were 20 million here , only 1/4 had ever paid any federal taxes, 3/4 of them had been using state and federal assistance programs? I would suspect if the data were not favorable to the pro illegal / Immigration groups , then it would be claimed that the data was flawed. The amnesty thing is problematic from the standpoint if you do this then they would be legally eligible immediately to partake in all those programs we are told they cannot utilize now. Apparently the 11 million number does not include their American born children , who right now are eligible and are receiving benefits.
I agree with the premise we really should know exactly what we are dealing with and what will the effects be? In 86 we were told the number was around 1 million , and it turned out to be just short of 3 million. Can anyone imagine if 11 million turned out to be 30 million? Instant collapse of the social safety net system would occur. Can we tax the rich enough to pay for this also?
Right now it is an all or nothing debate on both sides. But we cannot afford another Health Care bill , where in the words of Nancy Pelosi , We have to vote for it , make it law, and then we will find out what is in it and how it will affect us.
David Holzman
@V Marshall
Roughly 75 percent of immigrants (both legal and illegal) are low-skilled, no-skilled, and a net drain on the economy. The only people who benefit are the business owners who hire the cheap labor. This is how Walmart has been able to pay minimum wage in S. Cal. for grocery checkers, who normally get around $17/hr: an oversupply of cheap labor. That's why Cesar Chavez, the legendary founder of the United Farm Workers, denounced illegal immigrants to INS: he understood that an oversupply of cheap labor would cut his members wages. And those of everyone else, as a 1997 National Academy of Sciences report showed. US high school dropouts' wages declined 30% from 1979-95, about half of this due to mass immigration. And this is why big business Republicans and the Chamber of Commerce have promoted amnesty. (The only reason ***some*** big biz Republicans are changing their tune now is because their base is fed up.)
gypsy314 ne
Well folks we have done this amnesty thing before look were we are now over two or three decades later. The Illegal aliens know if they come and out wait the gringo they will bend to the illegal aliens . This has been a full circle now and they expect the gringo to give in again. I say no if we are going to be a nation of laws then stop it now no excepts send all illegal alien home and tell them get in line no exceptions. Tell them they are not going to out wait us this time to give in. Tell them our laws do matter. Most important send a the strongest message of all to the dead beat employer's that hire the illegal aliens no more passes you go to jail for a very long time and you lose your business if they are charge more than twice. Bottom line close the door to the democrats for using the illegal aliens as a pawn. Remember a vote for a democrat is a vote for Obama and illegal aliens , homosexuals and terrorist. This traitor of a president has choose terrorist over the Israeli people. may God have mercy on Obama's soul.
gypsy314 ne
Well put David
David Spratt
Mr. Holzman, Refreshing to see comments made as an obvious result of critical thinking. The name calling and race baiting from both sides really gets tiresome. Regarding the effects on business I remember the debate between Bill Clinton and Herman Cain over Hillary Care. One point he made regarding the effects between small businesses and larger ones concerning costs was the effect of economy of scale and the ability of larger better capitalized companies being able to weather the increased costs better over time. These companies were able to absorb costs better driving competition from the market place.
. Falling wages , particularly in construction has driven many out . Wages can only fall so far. In the housing industry you start with individual subcontractors moving up the food chain . Once you have reduced subcontractors, superintendents, area managers, district managers and so on , to subsistence wages there is nowhere else to go to for money except to reduce margins and this does not play well to stockholders. There is no debate over the fact that many should not be in business simply because of little or no demand.
This has been recognized by some , but not all , in business that made use of cheaper Undocumented labor. At some point it becomes harder and harder to compete within a sector of business when I hire cheaper workers , then you hire even cheaper workers and so on. There becomes a point at which neither one of us can hire anyone any cheaper , and then it just becomes a matter of who can hold out longer without going out of business. While we are doing this we are starving people who might buy our product. There was a day when I remember people that framed houses or worked in other trades could have afforded to actually live in a house they helped to build. Today I know of no one that is a tradesman that actually swings a hammer that could ever afford to own one. The saying goes " That a rising tide floats all boats." An ebb tide leaves all stuck in the mud. Slowly business is seeing this reality.
I recognized this 15 years ago and told people they were cutting their own throats and sacrificing the future for short term gains. There is a fine balance between under supply of labor and oversupply and neither one is good for the sustained viability of any business. Labor and production costs must bear some relativity to the cost of living , health and welfare of society. There is consensus of a shrinking middle class , but is this due to wage disparity caused by greed , some conspiracy between rich people , or is it simply because of a growing population and more people attempting to fit into the classification of being middle class where only so many slots exist to be filled?
Anyone can be poor and have no job , there is no downward limit to this number and it is infinite. Jobs on the other hand are not infinite nor can you create them at will according to demand.
It would seem to me that there were those already here that were economically classed as poor that should have been assimilated into the middle class before admitting new residents or citizens to the degree we have been doing. . Civil Rights acts were passed along with affirmative action and the assorted programs to help these people better their economic and social standing. They have been effectively left behind while adding to their numbers as well as placing newcomers ahead of them. I am all for personal responsibility and accountability . The current notion of redistribution disturbs me from the standpoint that there seems to be a growing underclass that will require ever increasing amounts of money to sustain them. The idea that taxing rich people will put anymore money into my paycheck, no matter how much you tax them , is false. The amount I make and take home in my paycheck every week bears no relation whatsoever to the rate at which rich people are taxed. They could be taxed at 100% and I would not realize one more dollar per week.
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The Mexican Invasion is our biggest threat to our National security.
La Raza, Maldef, Mecha, Lulac, The Hispanic caucus, The National Hispanic Leadership, The Texas Hispanic caucus and the promoters of amnesty and immigration reform; dare to expose this danger to our national security. Their greed for political power it is more important to them, that our country.
Fellow Americans, the ill US Immigration policies create a great opportunity for Muslins to enter the United States illegally, their objective is to destroy the USA and they use Mexico as the gate way and free pass to enter the USA. to many of us it was not surprise, A new Islamic awakening began after the second world war, Islam was spawned by the vast discovery of oil reserves in the Arab and Islamic countries. Oil become a strong weapon to advance the global influence of the Islamic oil producing nations, with their oil, they made stronger nations, that depend of them for oil, their puppets and suddenly became political incorrect to criticize Islam or Muslims, and with this new power and money, now Muslins have the financial means to convert the world to Islam; Mexico's Islamic growing population is taken place very fast, because Mexicans Arabic influence came through the Spanish that were conquered by the Arabs. Spain was conquered in 714 A.D. by Muslims and for 800 years the invading Muslims subjugate the Hispanics to Islamic Laws in addition Spain underwent the process of Arabization. This was accomplished as the invaders systematically erase the identities of the people by abolishing their native cultures and languages replacing them with Arab culture and language Although generations of Spanish rulers have tried to expunge this era from the historical record, recent archeology now shed fresh light on the Moors who flourished in Andalucia for more than 700 years. The connection of Muslims and Mexico through their heritage is a fact, their genes and culture was inherited by the Hispanics that conquered Mexico.
Most Americans are in complete denial of this eminent danger of the destruction of America as we know it, Mexicans are changing our culture, our laws, our values and most important our language, our politicians do not represent us because they become puppets of the Mexican government and now we know for a fact that the drug cartels are working with Islamic organizations they creating new Mexican identity for Muslims to enter our country illegally.
Fellow Americans we need to wake up and demand that this corrupt government, secure our Border Build the fence and enforce our immigration laws. And most important, suspend all immigration until we correct this mad immigration policy. We need to be vigilante and take action to defend our country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdGDXHus6xM
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/defenseandsecurity/a/otmaliens.htm
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http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/islam-new-religion-rebellious-mexican-state-chiapas
http://www.speroforum.com/a/27754/Radical-Islam-makes-inroads-among-Latin-Americas-Native-peoples
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/14/iran-case-shows-growing-national-security-role-of-drug-enforcement-administration/
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Juan Reynoso
The truth about Border security, is that Obama is a pathological liar. I live in Del Rio Texas, I can show Obama and any one that the Border is wide open.
Fellow Americans, Obama, Eric Holder, Janet Napolitana and the organizations of traitors ( LA RAZA, MALDEF, MECHA, LULAC, THE HISPANIC CAUCUS, THE TEXAS HISPANIC CAUCUS, THE NATIONAL HISPANIC LEARDERSHIP, ACLU AND THE PROMOTERS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION), are aware of our weakness and our don't care attitude. Obama refused to enforce our immigration laws and order Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano and the US Dept. of Justice and Home land Security not to enforce the immigration laws.
What we must do to stop this invasion?. Fellow Americans, it is time to confront reality and we need to speak the truth. The truth is that This invasion of illegal aliens is a threat to our country. Before I continue I want to make clear, that I do not have a problem with people of any Nationality. This issue is not about racism or hate; it is about our laws our sovereignty and the illegal aliens and the traitors that use this issue to strive for political domination of the USA.
We must let the American people know, that the elections of 2012 will be the last chance for us, to take our country back at the voting booth, if we fail it will be by a revolution.
The following we must ask our representatives, to stop this invasion:
1- Build the fence and secure our Border. The border patrol and immigration officers should be authorize to use force if need be, and should not be discharge or put in prison for doing their job. Ours is a sovereign country and our borders must be respect by all foreigners.
2- Deport all illegal aliens and permanent residents with criminal records.
3- Cut all social service for permanents residents and illegal aliens. not immigrant should be an economic burden to the American People.
4- All illegal aliens must graduate from high school and be proficient on the use of the English language, for consideration of legal immigration process, or face deportation.
5- Educate all illegal immigrants in American History, our Constitution and loyalty to the Unite States of America. A pledge of loyalty to the United States must be require for consideration of legal immigration. We must end the indoctrination of traitors in our country.
6- Pass Legislation to review our immigration policies to control the numbers of people that will enter our country every year and from what country and their education levels. stop the family reunion clause, and pass legislation that new immigrants can not be sponsors of others to be able to come to this country.
Most Latinos are tire of the Mexicans culture of corruption, the drug traffickers, criminals, prostitutes and gangs that are taken over some communities. We are tire of La Raza and the rest of the Mexican organizations agenda, they are the promoters of socialism, they are the Marxist of tomorrow, they betray this country; the country that open his door and welcome them with the amnesty of 1986 to be part of America; these people has not loyalty they are the promoters of the invasion of illegal aliens and defenders of the criminals that are here in our country in violation of our laws. Most Latinos are in support of the enforcement of our immigration laws because they are fed up with Obama and the promoters of illegal immigration refusal to enforce our immigration laws and protect our borders from the invasion of illegal aliens and the drug traffickers, that are destroying our country's values, school system, social service and most important they are taken our jobs and are a huge financial burden.
We ask all citizens of this United States to stand for our country's enforcement of the immigration laws, not immigration reform must take place if our Borders are not secure and our laws are enforce.
How are we going to prevent the thousands of economic fugitives that are invading our country, the United States cannot afford another influx of thousands of refugees from Mexico nor other country.
You decide, continue promoting this invasion of illegal aliens, or stop the destruction of our country for ever.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageNavigator/facts/research_us_laws/
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/
Dale Curry
@ Juan - The only pathological liar is Tparty and right wing zealots like your self. From weapons of mass destruction (or delusion) to death panels and government take over of healthcare (2009 and 2010 Politifact's Lies of the Years); we have seen clearly that when the right's rhetoric and/or race baiting fails the operating procedure is to scream the lies loud enough in the hopes that someone will believe. So, before starting to call the President a liar, I suggest you work on your own challenges with the truth. Have a happy holiday, and don't forget to pray to be forgiven for these vicious attacks against the President with half truths and outright lies.
gypsy314 ne
All America has to do is cut all jobs and welfare and the illegal aliens will self deport.
Anybody but Obama!
Remember a vote for a democrat is a vote for Obama and illegal aliens , homosexuals and terrorist.
Juan Reynoso
The Mexican invasion continue, San Antonio, Houston and the Border towns are the areas that is increasing their Mexican Illegal aliens population Our schools in San Antonio and the Border towns have an economic crisis do to the illegal aliens, but our politicians and the news media are blind or do not have the cojones to report the truth. Latinos in San Antonio need to confront this problem soon, because we are force to pay for this economic burden.
God save us from this self destruction. this is a matter of enforcing our laws and our sovereignty.
Juan Reynoso
Dale Curry, Any time you want to know the truth, let me know; I will take you my self and show you the Obama and any one that claims that the Border is secure they are liars. Obama is a pathological, liar the whole country know that he is a liar; are you blind that you are not able to see what he is?
God help you, and give you the wisdom to be able to see the truth.
I Am Latino but first I Am an American, loyal to this United State, not to any political party, Republicans and Democrats are the same, corrupt and traitors that sell out our country to the Multinational corporations and especial interest.