For Republicans, the Hazards of Red Meat
The growth of the state’s Hispanic population and the rise of immigration as a political issue put Texas Republicans in a tight spot — especially the ones with statewide aspirations.
It’s clear in the polls, on the political stump, on the news, at rallies and in the aisles of the Legislature that voters strongly support tougher enforcement of immigration laws and that conservative and Anglo voters strongly support more restrictions and fewer benefits for undocumented immigrants and their children.
It’s also clear that Hispanic voters — part of the fastest-growing group in the state’s population — don’t agree ...
Comments (24)
Joe Estep via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Funny how this writer for "Tiny Times of Texas" doesn`t understand that only the left (within any racial group) thinks that those that swim the big ditch should be given a free ride. The majority of those that have come legally are not in favor of this, many who have roots in Texas going back decades or longer do not support this. Seems that only the TTT cannot see the difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration and wants to stir up trouble by mixing the two. I`m surprised that Gov. Good Hair can, him being only the lesser of the 2 evils in the last race. But even a blind squirrel...
Jack Morgan via Texas Tribune on Facebook
This free ride you cited --exactly who's advocating that?
Joe Estep via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Jack, Those who advocate for amnesty and the Dream Act as it is now written that gives everything without any penalty. If they are granted residency after coming in illegally it is a free ride. It is unfair to those who stood in line and those who are still waiting in line to come.
Y ni peinsas en decirme que soy racista.
Joe Estep via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Jack, Those who advocate for amnesty and the Dream Act as it is now written that gives everything without any penalty. If they are granted residency after coming in illegally it is a free ride. It is unfair to those who stood in line and those who are still waiting in line to come.
Y ni peinsas en decirme que soy racista.= Don`t even think about calling me a racist.
Stephen J Wright via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Joe is right-When my Anglo ancestors came here centuries ago, they didn't have a "Dream Act" or "amnesty". They simply came here and waited in line. Wait a second, they actually came here, conquered the native people that already resided in the land, and claimed it for themselves. Never mind.
Joe Estep via Texas Tribune on Facebook
piensas, I`ve got to learn how to type
Joe Estep via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Stephen, you say that as if it were a bad thing.And play the race card LOL! Times change, I wasn`t there and neither where you so I don`t feel any guilt, if you do see a doctor. But we`re here now, nations have laws to protect them.
Scott Kilpatrick via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Joe, what the hell does your comment have to do with this article? Are you complaining because Perry does indeed talk about immigration issues as opposed to simply law enforcement? If so, you should refute the article rather than complain about the left.
Evelyn White via Texas Tribune on Facebook
What ever Perry talks about, basically, he wants somebody besides the State of Texas to pay for. Border security? That's a "Federal Government thing". Sanctuary cities.... that's a "City" thing. State of Texas..... not really their problem....
Joe Estep via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Scott, the writer is only spouting what the left wants you to believe
"It’s also clear that Hispanic voters — part of the fastest-growing group in the state’s population — don’t agree with their fellow Texans on many of those issues. Can Republicans keep their current voters happy without alienating the Hispanics they hope will support them in the future?"
This is just a too much generalization to buy. There are many "Hispanics" that do not favor illegal immigration. The author and the left seem to be one and the same.
http://www.alipac.us/article615.html
Stephen J Wright via Texas Tribune on Facebook
So genocide was okay then, but not now? Odd. I don't feel guilt, but find it awfully ironic that we Americans of non-Native descent can complain about hard-working people who are trying to do the best for their families and children, when most of us, at least indirectly, gained our citizenship in a mass land grab. Come up with some solutions (and mass deportation isn't a real one), but don't pretend that we got here all angelic-like.
Brittanicus
TIME FOR STATE ZERO TOLERANCE POLICIES.
Push! Push! Push! No more easy pickings for illegal aliens. The fight will eventually reach you, as more States begin regain their right to stop the financial damage done by the illegal alien invasion. Americans must demand that each States legislator stop pandering to every body who slips through the border fence or alights from a international aircraft impersonating a tourist with no intentions of leaving, Its not a rosy future for some States that have incomprehensible food stamps, Section 8 housing, medicaid, hospital debits or overpopulated jails and prisons caused by the influx of economic refugees from Arizona. Many Americans are ineligible for these programs, which should have serious repercussions. If you want your States to become a victim of the open border Liberal, Democrat and Republican agendas, don't bother speak up for yourself,family and higher taxes that are sure to come. Don't relive the pressure on any politician.You can converse directly with your Senator or Representative office at 202-224-3121or join NumbersUSA, The Tea PARTY and appose any Amnesty, Dream Act Amnesty, Sanctuary Cities or other ominous Immigration Reform. Before any new legislation the border must be secured--shut, with the original President Bush 2006 Secured Fence Act. A double--layer--fence constructed with concertina razor wire. At least 5000 strong military presence or US Border agents, with weapons ready.
Those States that remains unconcerned to The People's need for relief from sustaining illegal foreign families, will be doomed to higher taxes, spiraling crime and the thin residue of liquid cash in State treasuries. The prime example is the quandary of the Grand Canyon State of Arizona, where illegal immigration has been eroding Public benefits for years. But Arizona has started the long road back, by pioneering immigration policing laws. The states that have just sat back and watched their States deterioration through neglect are going to pay the Piper, the rigid way. Hundreds of thousands of foreign nationals are deserting Arizona, heading to other States--unknown. Has--YOUR--State enforced its immigration laws, or is your State a target? A whole long list of States are empowering their legislators to instill new restriction laws to halt more illegal aliens settling there, The States that don't will become occupied.
Every State that wants to defend and protect its legal populace needs to mandate nationwide policing laws E-Verify, 287 (G) and Secure Communities (Fingerprint check for illegal alien criminals and re-entries) and some form of national Whistle-Blower program for protection of jobs, to safeguard America's people jobs. Enrollment in E-Verify has grown from 3,000 companies to 82,000 since it was expanded nationwide in 2003, but participation remains voluntary and is not mandated; covers 1 percent of an estimated 6 million U.S. employers and about 11 percent of annual hiring.
E-VERIFY SHOULD BE MANDATORY AND STRICTLY ENFORCED NATIONWIDE. The only answer to businesses hiring illegal alien labor, is to lock the employers-up and throw away the key? On the law books is "Citizens Arrest,” so it emerges as common sense for the American people to become whistle- blowers and do your civic duty to report to ICE, anybody business, organization or groups, which is aiding and abetting illegal alien workers. Be vigilant as it could easily be your job their taking, specifically if it’s in the construction, service and entertainment industries. The protection of our workforce must be a priority, which seems to be overlooked by every administration; even prior to the 1986 Ronald Reagan amnesty.
THE IS A NATIONAL WHISTLE BLOWERS CENTER FOR MOSTLY CORPORATE FRAUDULENT IRREGULARITIES. SO WE NOW SHOULD NOW ORGANIZE A WHISTLE BLOWER PROGRAM FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION REPORTS. California the Sanctuary State and Sen. Harry Reid's Nevada have been extremely vulnerable, as they have some of the largest populations of illegal aliens in the Sunshine State govern mostly by tax-spending Democratic-Liberals. The employers are comatose into thinking they can escape any risk of being caught, but in the last few months "Howard Industries' of Mississippi were caught red-handed and fined over $2.2 Million dollars In a statement 600 illegal alien workers were detained by Immigration and Customs Services, with many reentries after being deported before.
My guess is human resources manager Jose Humberto Gonzalez was scapegoat for much bigger fish, when corporate originally stated that no foreign nationals were working at the plant. U.S. Attorney John M. Dowdy Jr. said Howard Industries' hiring practices took jobs away from American citizens who needed them and encouraged illegal immigration."The unlawful actions by companies like Howard Industries in this case contribute significantly to the problem of illegal immigration in the United States." But as always nobody is going to prison, or is there any word of business asset being confiscated? A second time the business should go to the Federal court Steps to be sold. Want to learn more about illegal immigration? Go to NumbersUSA website and send free faxes the Washington lawmakers and fight back against the open border fanatical corruption. NumbersUSA is one of the prime pro-sovereignty organizations defending your rights, against big business, special interests and open border Liberals.
Joe Estep via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Yep, that`s exactly what I said about genocide. Stick to the facts, don`t try to read into what I write.I keep it very simple so you don`t have to. I see no irony in it at all. As Obama said "We won" we make the rules. To view history through the morality of today shows that you have no understanding of the subject.
If they want to come there are legal ways to do so. Life sucks ,if you break the rules there are consequences, at least that is what I had already learned by the time I got to Kindergarten. Deportation and a large fine of some is an answer, charging the others enough of a fine to pay for at the least their processing is another.
Funny, I`m an old Texan. We never gave a damn about these poor folks coming and going, (they were quiet , worked and went home or assimilated) most of us felt sorry for them then some damned fool put it in their head that they had a “right” to be here without following the rules, and could demand that “right”. Bad tactics.
My folks came as indentured servants to work on a tobacco plantation, but that wasn`t me so I really don`t care.
Aldo Merino via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Joe: Somewhat ironically, you accuse the Texas Tribune of advocating something they haven't and then proceed to do precisely what you accuse them of doing. The article just details the fine balancing act Republicans have to do regarding immigration issues to try and not lock out a growing and significant group in the state. It does little more.
Your strawman about the left is meaningless -- it's a position you concocted and proceeded to smear with no real basis in the views of the majority of the left (insofar as you care to attach political labels). Punishing kids of illegal immigrants who bear no responsibility for their parents' actions and meet certain criteria is not some absurd left leaning position; it's a reasonable, centrist position, no matter how much you disagree with it.
Aldo Merino via Texas Tribune on Facebook
As far as facts and keeping things simple go, let's stick to the article's content and not derail this into some substance free, anecdotal diatribe.
Sid Greer
Hispanic voters are not going to vote dumb as they near electoral majority with the combined strength of other minorities and anglo democrats. The actions by the republicans today will eliminate any chance of their every getting back into power once they are defeated. They have a biased, narrow minded focus that is anti-Hispanic. The only issue that they have in common is abortion, but it will be forgotten in a wave of laws that racially profile Hispanics. All that the Republicans do will be undone and they will be a permanent minority in time holding office only in the few remaining conservative white districts left until the re redistricted out of existence. They have less than 5 elections left.
Jonathan Osmundsen via Texas Tribune on Facebook
I think it's great that Perry's bringing it up as an issue. Obviously, there's a lot to discuss.
Joe Estep via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Aldo, just 2 of the more obvious examples of the "slant" of the writer. Which is in keping with the TT norm to the left of center.
"It’s also clear that Hispanic voters — part of the fastest-growing group in the state’s population — don’t agree with their fellow Texans on many of those issues. Can Republicans keep their current voters happy without alienating the Hispanics they hope will support them in the future?"
"And is it possible to escape this legislative session with a package of bills moderate enough to keep Hispanic voters in the fold without forfeiting the 2012 primary elections to current Republicans, including the noisy Tea Partiers, who want a stronger hand?"
To lump all "hispanics" together in opposition to tougher immigration enforcement as he does is insulting as it is inaccurate.
You should be more critical in your reading. This piece puts this issue out there as one that is clearly divided between the races, which it is not.
Asking the kids and their parents to pay for their processing and a fine is not unreasonable. Have you read the Dream Act as it was submitted? Check out all the “free” goodies that are included on top of not one penalty or charge. That is unfair to those who went through the process.
Joe Estep via Texas Tribune on Facebook
To make it simple for you, Aldo. 1) TT`s writer puts this issue out there as though it were a cut and dry issue between the "hispanic" community and the anglos on this . Inaccurate, uniformed at best, twisting of facts to push an agenda more probable. 2) If the Repubs push this too hard they are alienating a large portion of the people in the state(all the “Hispanics”) and will not be re-elected and if they don`t they will upset "the noisy" Tea partiers. (Love the fact that the "noisy" LULAC folks were not mentioned, just the Tea Party.)
It`s really odd, that in one paragraph he worries about the loss of elections if they are too harsh because of the supposed "hispanic" opposition to strict immigration law enforcement by the state and in another worries that the same pols could risk not being re-elected because they alienated the "noisy" Tea party, which last time I read they are an anti Tax group and have not made any statements about immigration policy.
One or the other but you cannot have it both ways.
Aldo Merino via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Joe: Hence the balancing act the article implies. You can have both if you delicately manage (or pander) to both constituencies. Politics, like the real world, isn't always as black and white as you seem to suggest. Frankly, I would take your criticisms more seriously if you didn't continuously engage in the same practices you accuse others of.
I've seen the tea parties in action firsthand. It has little to do with taxes and a lot more to do with a hole host of issues, often little to do with taxes (an issue most of the self proclaimed tea partiers I've spoken to are wholly ignorant of). That's a separate topic not worth delving into here.
And as a Hispanic, I'm well aware of the legislation and the issues.
Tim Tukaram Spotswood via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Joe I think I might see a little more balanced article than you do but the writers liberal ideals do seem rather blatant. The quotes you provided show that.
As for stealing land from Indians... I'm only 2nd generation American so I couldn't care less. But guess what my grandfather did to enter this country? He did the paperwork and waited his turn! Honestly over half my friends are first generation Americans and they can't believe how we let the illegals get away with so much - makes them mad as hell! In Dallas, TX Parkland hospital (the county hospital) 75% of births are to illegals. Guess who pays for it (Hint - it is not the illegals).
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/pqo01 About halfway down the page they talk about Operation Wetback we did in the early 1950's. It worked pretty well; it is time for another round.
Aldo Merino via Texas Tribune on Facebook
As a liberal, there just ain't a whole lot of liberal in there.
The tone is a bit more informal than typical news writing, but it's just restating what's been going on in Texas.
Rudy Gonzales
Texas should get more Hispanic legislators based on the percentage of increases in Texas. Redistricting should be to guarantee Hispanic legislators gain office to the proportion of their population in Texas. There will shenanigans based on Perry and the Republicans actions in the past. This what you get when there's a one party rule in Texas! The Republican party has been bought by the well-connected and fully funded. We're not laughing here in Texas! Texas has been awash in red tape and mismanagement for too long. Rick Perry is a career politician with no real world experience, who forces his warped narrow-minded religious beliefs on Texas women instead of addressing the 16 billion dollar budget deficit! These guys are so out of touch and a good example is Rick Perry of Texas. Texas has beeen under Republican rule for quite some time now. So how is possible that we are running a deficit? Elections matter people. If you don't vote you can't complain. VOTE next time.
This what you get when there's a one party rule in Texas! The Republican party has been bought by the well-connected and fully funded. We're not laughing here in Texas! Texas has been awash in red tape and mismanagement for too long. Rick Perry is a career politician with no real world experience, who forces his warped, narrow-minded, religious beliefs on Texas women instead of addressing the 16 billion dollar budget deficit! These guys are so out of touch and a good example is Rick Perry of Texas. Hey Trick Ricky - where's the jobs? Remember we're open for business? Where's the jobs?Texas has been under a "Conservative" Republican rule for quite some time now. So how is possible that we are running a deficit? Conservatives should have seen the writing on the walls and fixed the issues. Elections matter - people! If you don't vote you can't complain. VOTE next time.
voteforamerica
LATINOS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
TEAPARTYOFTX@GMAIL.COM
April 17th, 2011
Fellow Americans, Obama and the Democrats are working in secret, to pass the Dream act by Executive order, this is President's Obama tool for quick enactment of the Dream Act.
An Executive order, is an order issue by The President as head of the executive branch of the Federal Government, but this push for amnesty to illegal aliens by executive order, deviates from the congressional intent and exceeds the President's constitutional powers. Article I, Section 1 of the US Constitution specifically reserves all federal legislative authority to Congress, not the president. No President should use executive orders as a way to make policy without consulting the Congress. Obama think that he can do whatever he wants and trash our Constitution. Congress, must stop Obama from take- over the Congressional powers, we have a Constitution and no president should have the power to act unilaterally to void the laws of the United States, Obama took an oath to defend the Constitution , but what he is doing is to trash our Constitution and our laws. This president order the Dept. of Home land Security not to enforce our immigration laws, he refused to secure our borders, he order Erick Holder to sued The State of Arizona, for enforcing the immigration laws and protect the people of Arizona, 2,158 Americans are being kill in our country every year by illegal aliens, our jobs are taken by illegal aliens, 30 Billion Dollars per year are send out of the United States by illegal aliens and our Government is helping them to destroy our local economics. Fellow Americans, Obama and the pro-amnesty Washington politicians, “LA RAZA, MALDEF, MECHA,LULA, THE HISPANIC CAUCUS AND THE NATIONAL HISPANIC LEADERSHIP" are a threat to our country. Promoting or stand for any immigration reform or amnesty is to void the rule of law, our Constitution and our sovereignty. Their hungry for political power blind them to the point of treason and betray their own country. Fellow Americans we are the heart of America, we can not let this happen, we are the believers of our Constitution, the rule of law and our sovereignty; what we see today is the result of the amnesty of 1986, President Reagan and congress give amnesty to 3.5 millions illegal aliens and promised to the American people that this will never be done again. The amnesty of 1986 promoted this invasion of illegal aliens, now we have more than 12 million illegal aliens, and Obama refused to enforce our immigration laws and is planning behind our backs with Democrats Senators to give amnesty to the illegal aliens; this is plain and simple treason and he must be impeach by congress.
Fellow tea party members, we got a job to do, the following is the list of senators that voted in support the Dream act and amnesty to illegal aliens. They are up for re-election in 2012, we declared war on the corrupt Washington politicians and our job is to retire the busters from the political arena.
Here is the list of our target. Senators that supported the Dream act, that are up for re-election in 2012.
SENATOR-STATE-PARTY SENATOR-STATE- PARTY
Bingaman NM Dem Feinstein Cal Dem
Nelson FL Dem Gillibrand NY Dem
Menendez NJ Dem Lieberman CT Ind
Whitehouse RI Dem Cantwell WA Dem
Akaka HI Dem Cardin MD Dem
Carper DE Dem Webb VA Dem
Lugar IN Rep Kohl WI Dem
Casey PA Dem Klobuchar MN Dem
Stabenow MI Dem McCaskill MO Dem
Brown OH Dem Conrad ND Dem
Sanders VT Ind
Obama Ill Dem- Traitor, pathological liar- no values-no principles- whore that sell out to special interest and the IMF- The World Bank- The US Reserve Bank and the WTO. We Latinos will work to get the traitors out of Washington. We ask you to get inform and vote out of office the politicians that fail to vote for what is best for all Americans including Blacks and Latinos. Any immigration reform it is not good for the American people and in violation of our laws and constitution.
http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.ht nd-money-home.html http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/immigrants-se http ://www.cairco.org/econ/econ.html http://biggovernment.com/awrhawkins/2011/04/12/while-governor-jan-brewer-fights-to-keep-arizona-safe-president-obama-fights-against-arizona/
Francisco Canales teapartyoftx@gmail.com