Some Gay Marriages Legal in Texas
Their love story started with fuschia fingernail polish and black leather.
Therese Bur got her first glimpse of Sabrina Hill — a tall, dark-haired woman decked out in leather gear and flashing those nails — at about 2 a.m. at an Arizona gas station. She was intrigued. One date later, their future was sealed.
That was 17 years ago. “Sabrina was the first person who just listened to who I was and accepted me for who I was,” Bur says. “As strange as we are, that’s important.”
The two women are hardly the typical Texas married couple, yet their union ...
Comments (13)
Randall Terrell via Texas Tribune on Facebook
You know, if people just didn't care who other people married, this wouldn't even be an issue.
Chris Thornton via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Seems to me if you're born an "X" and then have an operation to become a "Y" and then have your gender legally changed to "Y" and your driver's license says you're a "Y" then you are a "Y" and you shouldn't be able to marry another "Y" since the Texas Constitution clearly states we do not legally recognize same-sex marriages. The Texas Courts really screwed this one up. Guess it'll be up to Austin to allow us voters to amend the Texas Constitution again to close this loophole.
Kevin Cain via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Agreed Randall.
elicumpton
Great story, but there's a couple of errors in terminology:
When someone is born with ambiguous genitalia, they are NOT transgender, they are intersex. Transgender is the term used to describe someone who was born male or female and feels strongly that their biology is not representative of their gender. And transsexuals are individuals who take medical steps (hormone therapy, surgery) to alter their body in such a way as to present their preferred gender both to themselves and socially.
Thanks!
Jennifer Cochran via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Wonderfully written - thank you for addressing such an important and relevant issue
Bob Brown via Texas Tribune on Facebook
This is such a waste of time. Why is the State or Federal Government involved in Marriage it should be a personal or religious event.
Then if you want to be recognized by the State as a union you should form a partnership or incorporate. Get rid of all these marriage and divorce laws. They are really meaningless as few take a lifetime committment seriously anyway and for those of us that do an actual document is simply a legal necessity.
Jesus B Ochoa via Texas Tribune on Facebook
The politics of hate are about to make a comeback in el chuco on the marriage question. Progressive people of the cloth need to start making their voices heard, and publicly.
Jennifer Edwards via Texas Tribune on Facebook
As YOU are the only person in your entire life who will actually be able to make YOU happy, I say do what is necessary!
Cyndi Jones Brown via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Go them!!
Mary Lynn VanZandt Neill via Texas Tribune on Facebook
Thanks, Randall! The people who care the most often have the most to hide, lose, or should just plain "zip it"(their mouths).
angelaerde
"That's because Hill is a transgender female: She was born with both male and female genitalia, and her father ordered surgery to make her a male."
Elicumpton is right.
Hill IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT a transgender female. She is intersex, and her karyotype and genetics could be absolutely anything, for those who might fixate on unscientific beliefs about what makes males and females.
The widespread existence of intersex people has been covered up by medicine for a while now. But we are finally coming into the light.
It is well nigh time that the laws in every nation in the world take into account the fact that we exist and have always existed and that we exist in great number. I have seen figures for the prevalence of intersex at 1:100, 1:60, 1:50 and higher depending on the part of the world one may be in.
The prevalence of intersex in South Africa is said to be 1:50, and that nation is the first to recognise we exist in its laws. The US needs to wake up to our existence and include us in all legislative reforms. It must be LGBTI, not LGBT.
Dave MacDonald via Texas Tribune on Facebook
How is it that One of the Bush women came out in support of gay marraige?
ZoeBrain
There's more of us than you think.
In the UK, where I was born, I could only marry another woman, as my UK Birth Certificate says "Boy". Even though my UK passport says "Female", based on my anatomy.
In Australia, where I live, I could only marry a man. Because my medical records show that I'm a "severely androgenised non-pregnant woman". Biologically speaking, Intersexed, but more female than male.
Both countries are very much against same-sex marriage, on religious grounds.
I identify as female - but I don't get a say in it, others make that judgement without consulting me about it. Goodness only knows what sex I'd be deemed to be in Texas. I think it would depend on the county, and whether the Judge used the foreign Birth Certificate, the foreign passports, my chromosomes, or biological reality to decide.
From the Jakarta Post:
"The recent case of Alterina Hofan highlighted the authority’s unpreparedness in dealing with this issue.
Alterina suffers Klinefelter’s syndrome, a rare case where a male has an extra X chromosome that makes him look more like a woman.
After years of operations, Alterina has documented himself as a man and even married Jane Hadipoespito.
The problem arose when Jane’s parents denounced the marriage, filing a lawsuit against Alterina for document fraud because he previously declared he was a woman in his identity cards.
Police then took Alterina to prison, ignoring the latest report from a doctor that confirmed he was a man.
The police decided to take Alterina to the Pondok Bambu women’s penitentiary in East Jakarta, after being transferred between a number of men’s and women’s penitentiaries.
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The police’s medical check-up show the opposite result, saying
Alterina is a woman.
Alterina’s wife Jane said that she did not really care.
“All I want is for my husband to be freed as soon as possible,” she said.
Alterina’s first trial hearing is scheduled next Monday."
No matter what we do, there will always be some religious fanatics, Muslim, Christian, whatever, who will get us arrested, and often convicted for existing, contrary to their religious ideology. And that's regardless of whether we're in Texas or Indonesia.
ENOUGH already.